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Old 09-23-2007, 01:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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[b]They say those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

I wonder how many people are aware that this is not the first attempt at "Globilization". At the turn of the century the industrial revolution begat the first attempt at globalization. The first attempt at globalization brought with it the Great Depression and 2 World Wars. Is this a cycle which will repeat itself?
The first round of globalization brought with it greedy multi-national corporations with the goal of exploiting both the natural resources of some nations and the cheep labor of others. It produced obsene profits and riches for the wealthy, and exploitation and massive debt for the poor. As the gap between rich and poor increases, it breeds discontent and hatred. The rich, being greedy by their nature, and incapable of fairly sharing the fruits of capitolism, begin the cycle by building resentment among the masses. They relax standards on immigration and encurage the inflow of cheap labor keeping wages artificially low. Eventually this resentment becomes a tool for politicians who rise to power preaching the need for nationalism and blaming foregners for the debt and poverty within there own countries. The trade agreements which are drafted early in the globilazation cycle, are now critisized and not honored. This results in retaliation and erosion of relationship between nations. The most desperate of the nations now deprived of comodities or capitol flows, begin to build formatable war machines to aquire through war what they cannot get through trade.
Free trade may sound like a noble cause but in reality it restricts goverments from protecting the very people who elect them. It survives for a while on the promises of greater prosperity but soon delivers a loss of self- determination and national interests. We are now seeing banks in europe colapsing due to their purchase of CMO's from the U.S.
People in the U.S. are being poisoned from agriculture from Mexico and products from China. They resent the out of control immigration and feel as if we have exported our greatness along with our manufacturing base.
China looses 100 billion dollars for every 10% of U.S. dollar devaluation.
We now appear to be on the doorstep of a world wide recession and it is just a matter of time before the fingers start pointing.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Back home to Northern CA
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[b]They say those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

I wonder how many people are aware that this is not the first attempt at "Globilization". At the turn of the century the industrial revolution begat the first attempt at globalization. The first attempt at globalization brought with it the Great Depression and 2 World Wars. Is this a cycle which will repeat itself?
The first round of globalization brought with it greedy multi-national corporations with the goal of exploiting both the natural resources of some nations and the cheep labor of others. It produced obsene profits and riches for the wealthy, and exploitation and massive debt for the poor. As the gap between rich and poor increases, it breeds discontent and hatred. The rich, being greedy by their nature, and incapable of fairly sharing the fruits of capitolism, begin the cycle by building resentment among the masses. They relax standards on immigration and encurage the inflow of cheap labor keeping wages artificially low. Eventually this resentment becomes a tool for politicians who rise to power preaching the need for nationalism and blaming foregners for the debt and poverty within there own countries. The trade agreements which are drafted early in the globilazation cycle, are now critisized and not honored. This results in retaliation and erosion of relationship between nations. The most desperate of the nations now deprived of comodities or capitol flows, begin to build formatable war machines to aquire through war what they cannot get through trade.
Free trade may sound like a noble cause but in reality it restricts goverments from protecting the very people who elect them. It survives for a while on the promises of greater prosperity but soon delivers a loss of self- determination and national interests. We are now seeing banks in europe colapsing due to their purchase of CMO's from the U.S.
People in the U.S. are being poisoned from agriculture from Mexico and products from China. They resent the out of control immigration and feel as if we have exported our greatness along with our manufacturing base.
China looses 100 billion dollars for every 10% of U.S. dollar devaluation.
We now appear to be on the doorstep of a world wide recession and it is just a matter of time before the fingers start pointing.
Along these lines, I just read "The Great Late USA" by Jerome Corsi.
Quite an eye opener in the direction this country is headed.
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:08 AM
 
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Not much you can do. Learn how the system really works. Protect yourself because I am 100% sure we will see a massive paradigm shift in the way we think about money and if you are not prepared. You will loose a lot of money. The cards are already starting to fall a part yet most don't even notice! What a shame. The first sign is the fact that the fed lowered the rate despite the fact that the dollar was already at very low levels. This shows that the fed doesn't care about the dollar and hence you should diversify out of the dollar as fast as possible.

They aren't kidding when they say knowledge is power.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Back home to Northern CA
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Not much you can do. Learn how the system really works. Protect yourself because I am 100% sure we will see a massive paradigm shift in the way we think about money and if you are not prepared. You will loose a lot of money. The cards are already starting to fall a part yet most don't even notice! What a shame. The first sign is the fact that the fed lowered the rate despite the fact that the dollar was already at very low levels. This shows that the fed doesn't care about the dollar and hence you should diversify out of the dollar as fast as possible.

They aren't kidding when they say knowledge is power.
Moody.com talks about a survival kit for such a time. I need to look into it more...sure don't want to be caught off guard when things go belly up. I believe the whole thing is setting us up for a one world monetary system.
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:40 PM
 
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No. Globalization is not leading us into depression and war.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:10 PM
 
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Yes.

I do not know so much about the depression part, but as career military and having lived overseas, I do have a bit of a back ground into some of the things behind this war.

The Islamic hatred of the US is all about our support of globalization.

We [not you, and not me, rather the American version of free-market capitalism and multi-national corporations] have put McDonalds into every nation. Even though it offends people in so many cultures. Even though it is locals who have invested, and locals who work there, and locals who eat there. It still offends them.

'Free-market Capitalism and Multi-national Corporations' have put TV stations into every nation and with it Babe-Watch and Love-boat.

The junk that sells on our TV, offends many Americans, and ours is a liberal society. Put TV sets into an Amish home with filth, vulgarity and porn on every channel, and see what they think of it.
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:53 PM
 
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Moody.com talks about a survival kit for such a time. I need to look into it more...sure don't want to be caught off guard when things go belly up. I believe the whole thing is setting us up for a one world monetary system.
Honestly, where do you people get these ideas?

I swear to god, how can anyone in this day and age live in a world so completely ignorant of financial literacy?
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Back home to Northern CA
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Honestly, where do you people get these ideas?

I swear to god, how can anyone in this day and age live in a world so completely ignorant of financial literacy?
What should we think after reading this news article which is one of many discussing this issue of where the american dollar is headed? If you google "amero" there's quite a few articles. Regardless of what happens I like to be informed.

Amero, Debut of the amero

"In the US, experts are now predicting that the collapse of the dollar is imminent.

"People in the U.S. are going to be hit hard," says Bob Chapman publisher of The International Forecaster newsletter. "In the severe recession we are entering now, Bush will argue that we have to form a North American Union to compete with the Euro."

"Creating the amero," Chapman explained, "will be presented to the American public as the administration's solution for dollar recovery. In the process of creating the amero, the Bush administration just abandons the dollar."

While the amero is being groomed to enter stage left, another phenomenon has been gathering steam outside of media headlines.

The North American Union, which got its start in secrecy, has been pulled out of the closet by a grass-roots effort, that will force it onto the agenda when Nancy Pelosi and Company open the 100th congress next month.

Pressed on by Conservative Caucus Chairman Howard Phillips; WND columnist and author Jerome Corsi; activist and American icon Phyllis Schlafly, leaders of the 50-member strong coalition are poised to halt any effort by the U.S. to enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada.

Members of Schlafly's Eagle Forum have been in training for the past two months to lobby on Capitol Hill when Congress convenes.

The resolution--sponsored by Republican Reps. Virgil Goode Jr. of Virginia, Tom Tancredo of Colorado, Walter Jones of North Carolina, and Ron Paul of Texas--expresses "the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a North American Union (NAU) with Mexico or Canada."

It's no idle boast when Phillips says, "this could be the most important project on which we've ever worked."

Armed with the Internet release of about 1,000 documents, obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request to the Security ad Prosperity Partnership of North America, the coalition has the potential to embarrass the governments of all three countries.

According to Corsi, "the documents show the White House is engaging in collaborative relations with Mexico and Canada--outside the U.S. Constitution.

Very little about the NAU has been covered by the Canadian media.

The stage has been carefully set and only intervention will stop North America from taking the same stealth route that Europe took in creating the European Union and its legal tender the Euro."
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:32 AM
 
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If you like to be informed, you should read the "The Economist" magazine, debbee.

I think you might find that the Canada Free Press is a touch biased...
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Back home to Northern CA
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If you like to be informed, you should read the "The Economist" magazine, debbee.

I think you might find that the Canada Free Press is a touch biased...
Thanks,

I'll look into it. I imagine I can read online editions?
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