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Old 09-14-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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and your offering for this topic is?
At least he didn't offer up Spam like you did, Spampa Pipes aka Spamwad.

This is the Economics forum. It's about.....Economics. Imagine that.

As a paid professional forum spammer, you need to be posting your spam garbage in the Unexplained Mysteries And Paranormal Forum.

Why? Because it truly is an unexplained mystery how you and your spam could be wrong 100% of the time, and debunked 100% of the time, yet you're permitted to keep posting your spam on the Economics forum.

This forum is about Economics...serious Economics, not Come-to-Jesus because the Dollar is going to collapse, or buy food stocks because the economy is going to collapse or the too-big-to-fail-banks that were supposed to fail but never did.

You continually post crap from GlobalRetards.com, economiccollapsebarf.com and LEAP2020. Those are propaganda web-sites, and the garbage they spew has no place here.

Offering....


Mircea
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Maybe we should worry a little bit more about the Fed "ruthlessly undercutting the US Dollar" rather than the world's largest exporter devaluating it's largest importer.

Just sayin'...
Very True. We can kill the dollar faster than anyone else so we will do that.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:35 PM
 
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Very True. We can kill the dollar faster than anyone else so we will do that.
Don't try to co-opt me into your ridiculous sky-is-falling, conspiracy theory-laden posting.

Your premise is flawed.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:45 PM
 
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The way of the German Mark & the Banana Note = Print happy = money worth exactly what it is, paper.

Anyways... everyone already know (some even though they won't admit)...
What goes up MUST come down eventually.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:56 PM
 
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China/Russia Are Ruthlessly Cutting The U.S. Dollar

Just to think... should China & Russia turn "gangster loan shark" on the money they loaned to USA...
I wonder when there are actual consequences (and there very well be in the impending future)... would people still be OK to US doing ourselves in by spending what we don't have & owing money to "dangerous" people who when collecting that money... won't be just that "courtesy" phone calls or letters (like that of banks or CC loans etc.)
BUT collect with "force" (eg. of how many murders related to gangster loan sharks or money owed to drug dealers).

Hello...
An arm or a leg or take both???? Somebody???
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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China/Russia Are Ruthlessly Cutting The U.S. Dollar

Just to think... should China & Russia turn "gangster loan shark" on the money they loaned to USA...
I wonder when there are actual consequences (and there very well be in the impending future)... would people still be OK to US doing ourselves in by spending what we don't have & owing money to "dangerous" people who when collecting that money... won't be just that "courtesy" phone calls or letters (like that of banks or CC loans etc.)
BUT collect with "force" (eg. of how many murders related to gangster loan sharks or money owed to drug dealers).

Hello...
An arm or a leg or take both???? Somebody???

How will China and Russia force the USA to do anything? The United States military dwarfs both of them even when they are combined. Even without the conventional military, what would Russia and China do? Invade the USA? Good luck with that when the nuclear bombs start raining down. Never mind the fact that they aren't really loans and they are in our own currency.

What will likely happen is that China and Russia will continue trying to marginalize USA's position through economic means. Creating bilateral currency exchanges, gobbling up resources, etc. But military force would never work against the USA. Just like it would never work against Russia or China.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:01 AM
 
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Grandpa Pipes has no idea what's going on.

If china cuts the dollar value, they lose their edge. They're doing everything they can to do the opposite. Gotta keep those factories open.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:39 AM
 
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How will China and Russia force the USA to do anything? The United States military dwarfs both of them even when they are combined. Even without the conventional military, what would Russia and China do? Invade the USA? Good luck with that when the nuclear bombs start raining down. Never mind the fact that they aren't really loans and they are in our own currency.

What will likely happen is that China and Russia will continue trying to marginalize USA's position through economic means. Creating bilateral currency exchanges, gobbling up resources, etc. But military force would never work against the USA. Just like it would never work against Russia or China.
Great idea!!!
Invade!!! The economy!!!

Why waste the money invested & loaned???
Milk it through the economic sense and have that loan converted to a portfolio of valuable assets like real / commercial estates, land, bank, credit, resources, energy, food etc... Get it with US's government's blessings & tax-free even... Get that advantage from that person who owes you... whatever advantage you can get.
Succeed where the Japanese failed in the 80s.

You control that family's wallet, you are that daddy.

I wonder how would Americans feel when they find their food, resources, energy supplies, jobs, companies are but "leftover scraps" after the China & Russians pick through.
Hmmm... even like stocks. Must be that great of an investment not to be on the inside too.

What goes up... must always come down.
When there is a "profit" for some... there is always a loss somewhere & Vice versa.
Someone somewhere will always be paid back in some ways....
It only make sense.
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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Grandpa Pipes has no idea what's going on.

If china cuts the dollar value, they lose their edge. They're doing everything they can to do the opposite. Gotta keep those factories open.
Thank you. It really is exasperating trying to reason with Special Olympians on Ritalin.

...and, yeah, I'm kinda cranky so I'm probably not going to be diplomatic, but it seems that a fair amount have no idea of how international finance works. I swear some of these posters think that there are giant ships with cargo holds full of pallets of greenback currency sailing across the ocean...

How did Halliburton become succesful?

China and Russia aren't even an issue. Our stagggering debt to ourselves, however, is...
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:14 PM
 
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The vast majority of people think they know it all, but really know diddly.
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