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Old 01-24-2013, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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Research suggests we may actually face a declining world population in the coming years. This will have vast repercussions to society and to the the world wide economy. Fewer people mean fewer paying to support the elderly and retirees. It also means fewer sales of goods and services, meaning lower economic growth, or maybe even permanent recession, with ever growing unemployed.

Worldwide birthrates declining

A somewhat more arcane milestone, meanwhile, generated no media coverage at all: It took humankind 13 years to add its 7 billionth. Thatís longer than the 12 years it took to add the 6 billionthóthe first time in human history that interval had grown. (The 2 billionth, 3 billionth, 4 billionth, and 5 billionth took 123, 33, 14, and 13 years, respectively.) In other words, the rate of global population growth has slowed. And itís expected to keep slowing. Indeed, according to expertsí best estimates, the total population of Earth will stop growing within the lifespan of people alive today.
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And then it will fall.

The way things are going, Western Europe as a whole will most likely shrink from 460 million to just 350 million by the end of the century. Thatís not so bad compared with Russia and China, each of whose populations could fall by half.

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Old 01-24-2013, 04:49 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Research suggests we may actually face a declining world population in the coming years.
That'll be fine with me.

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This will have vast repercussions to society and to the the world wide economy.
Fewer people mean fewer paying to support the elderly and retirees.
It also means fewer sales of goods and services, meaning lower economic growth,
or maybe even permanent recession, with ever growing unemployed.
Meh. It requires balancing (approximately) the production and consumption needs...
with the capacity to produce. It won't happen by waving a magic wand... but is doable.

As for the US share in all this...

1920 = 106,021,537
1930 = 123,202,624
1940 = 132,164,569
1950 = 151,325,798
1960 = 179,323,175
1970 = 203,211,926
1980 = 226,545,805

1990 = 248,709,873
2000 = 281,421,906
2007 = 301,139,947
2010 = 309,162,581

It took the US sixty years (including the depression and WW2) for more than a 100%
increase in our population: 123 Million to 226 Million (1920 - 1980).
But it took the US only forty years (another 40%) to increase to 309 Million (1970- 2010).

That's too many too fast... especially at a time when our industrial capacity...
and particularly our need for low/no skilled labor was dropping precipitously.
Adding insult to injury... the greatest population increases came from the least able.

The US at up to 200 or 225 Million will work fine.
The sooner we can get back to that the better.

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Old 01-25-2013, 01:55 AM
 
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Fine. We don't need any more mothers who make min. wage with 3 kids. They don't need the kids nor does the government need to prove absolutely everything for them. If you want 3 kids....make a decent living.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:46 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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A declining population would be a good thing. Too damn many people on this planet. And China's population falling by half would be terrific; they have massive overpopulation problems. India should think about controlling its population too, along with Brazil and the United States.
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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We need bubbles just to reach a healthy level of unemployment. Our last healthy unemployment numbers were the result of a housing bubble. We have too many people and not enough jobs to employ them all so we're forced to give from our entitlement system to support them. We are slightly over populated because our economy can't provide enough jobs for US residents even with large amounts of government funding.

A shrinking population will never have a negative impact on the US because the US can simply issue more visas to fill the demand for workers.
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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This is good thing the nature of China and India have to do some thing about the overpopulation there has there is a water and foot shortage there and overcrowded cities.Many other countries in Asia and Africa and Pakistan have really bad water and foot shortage and extreme overcrowded cities because of overpopulation there.

I'm surprised the government there are not doing programs to lower the overpopulation there.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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Chinha i fact have a agig popualtion poroblem like so many western inustrialized antions. basically not enough people to support that popualtion in GDP.But at least China and japan have saved and can draw on this coutnries debt which they are numbers 1 and 2 in owning it.That is one of the scary parts agbout our aging popualtion and future of less GDP on average.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:13 PM
 
Location: NJ
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there is plenty of room on earth for a lot more people. we are nowhere near any kind of overpopulation problem. the hatred of humanity that school have baked into people is disgusting.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:40 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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there is plenty of room on earth for a lot more people.
OK. We'll tell them all to move to jersey.

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Old 01-25-2013, 09:15 PM
 
Location: NJ
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there is plenty of room in south and west new jersey. i believe nj is the most densely populated states, so there is tons of space in other states all over america.
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