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Old 05-19-2013, 09:16 PM
 
Location: South Portland, ME
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America didn't really have much of a military back then, nor did we have medicare and social security. You would need to get rid of those three things to get rid of income tax

And the problem with that would be.... ???
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:21 PM
 
Location: South Portland, ME
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It doesn't shock me any more than any other screed. One of the things that had happened in the age was the government seizing land from the natives en masse and handing it over to railroads - think about the heritage of your arch-conservative railroad baron Stanton when you ponder just which ideology really strokes the teat of government. Now, consider that if we went back to those glorious times and the government came around and started taking YOUR land at gunpoint and giving it to their cronies, like Monsanto or Halliburton and Bank of America, you might long for the good old days of income tax.

Government taking people's land and income tax are not related at all... but I guess good job making an argument as to why the 2nd amendment is needed.
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:00 PM
 
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And the problem with that would be.... ???
If you don't recognize a problem with taking away people's retirement and health insurance in a country where employers have essentially stopped offering pension plans and where health care costs consume 16% of our GDP, there's not much point in discussing the issue with you.

Most of don't live in a libertarian fantasyworld like you apparently do. Hint: Life is more complicated than a bad Ayn Rand novel.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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And the problem with that would be.... ???
It'd 2013 and the world is entirely different.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Where the heart is...
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If you don't recognize a problem with taking away people's retirement and health insurance in a country where employers have essentially stopped offering pension plans and where health care costs consume 16% of our GDP, there's not much point in discussing the issue with you.

Most of don't live in a libertarian fantasyworld like you apparently do. Hint: Life is more complicated than a bad Ayn Rand novel.
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It's 2013 and the world is entirely different.
That about sums it up...for me anyway!

Best regards, sincerely

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Old 06-02-2013, 04:31 PM
 
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People are paying taxes because their name has been "capitalized"...

Burton's legal Thesaurus
Capitalize--> Utilize for profit/manipulate/take advantage of.

Utilize for profit = Incorporate for income.

Through name capitalization, we have been incorporated for income. In other words, we use our energy and labor to create profit for the irs to collect. The irs should not be collecting from those who must labor before being paid.

They are a profit collection agency for corporations and business.

We are paying charges as a business pays...even if we are not or do not own a business.

We are not receivng currency from within this country, but rather a Federal Reserve currency from an independent credit monopoly. And we pay usage fees for using foreign currency.
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Old 06-02-2013, 05:50 PM
 
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Most don't live in a libertarian fantasyworld like you apparently do. Hint: Life is more complicated than a bad Ayn Rand novel.
Quite so. These hopelessly befogged devotees of Ayn Rand have done much more damage to this country than the federal income tax ever will. You can add fans of folks like Hayek, Buckley, Chambers, and Kirk to the list as well. Thoroughly misguided, all of them.
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Old 06-02-2013, 11:25 PM
 
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Quite so. These hopelessly befogged devotees of Ayn Rand have done much more damage to this country than the federal income tax ever will. You can add fans of folks like Hayek, Buckley, Chambers, and Kirk to the list as well. Thoroughly misguided, all of them.
In the sixties when people got stoned they dreamed of free love, cheap drugs and communes. Now they dream of free love, cheap drugs and Ron Paul.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:25 PM
 
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Op must be old or believe everything he reads.
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