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The tech companies love to spew lies about how there is a tech labor shortage. Nothing is further from the truth. The real truth is that these companies have been rallying to hire foreign workers mainly to lower costs.
Tech is already plagued with a huge amount of outsourcing on H1b and L1 visas. This has already driven salaries down between 15-50% since 2000 depending on the area of specialization.
Given the skyrocketing costs of US education and the cheap access foreigners have to education in their own country American workers will be rendered completely uncompetitive.
Isn't it better than having American tech companies relocate overseas?
In the late 19th Century and early 20th, immigration to America kept wages down and at the same time contributed greatly to America's prosperity.
If American manufacturers in the past few decades had an incentive to bring foreigners here to work in American factories instead of relocating overseas, would that not have kept a lot of manufacturing here and thus contributed to America's prosperity?
Isn't it better than having American tech companies relocate overseas?
In the late 19th Century and early 20th, immigration to America kept wages down and at the same time contributed greatly to America's prosperity.
If American manufacturers in the past few decades had an incentive to bring foreigners here to work in American factories instead of relocating overseas, would that not have kept a lot of manufacturing here and thus contributed to America's prosperity?
But Americans still won't have the jobs. They will go to foreigners still, just now on our own soil.
If American manufacturers in the past few decades had an incentive to bring foreigners here to work in American factories instead of relocating overseas, would that not have kept a lot of manufacturing here and thus contributed to America's prosperity?
Sure, if it was legally possible to pay those foreign workers $1/hr while living here.
In actuality, what you've suggested actually did happen as fence jumpers flooded into our country for minimum wage factory jobs. Not so sure that has contributed to the prosperity of the nation...
The tech companies love to spew lies about how there is a tech labor shortage. Nothing is further from the truth. The real truth is that these companies have been rallying to hire foreign workers mainly to lower costs.
Tech is already plagued with a huge amount of outsourcing on H1b and L1 visas. This has already driven salaries down between 15-50% since 2000 depending on the area of specialization.
Given the skyrocketing costs of US education and the cheap access foreigners have to education in their own country American workers will be rendered completely uncompetitive.
The fact that there is a tech labor shortage isn't a 'lie'. Compared to other countries america is very, very behind on STEM education. A few years ago I was working in IT had had to hire programmers. For every 15 qualified people from India I would get MAYBE one qualified american application.
The fact that there is a tech labor shortage isn't a 'lie'. Compared to other countries america is very, very behind on STEM education. A few years ago I was working in IT had had to hire programmers. For every 15 qualified people from India I would get MAYBE one qualified american application.
in fairness, this is partly because employers no longer want to train an employee AT ALL, and want college's to do it for them. You'd get a number of fairly qualified Americans for programming jobs too, employees just don't want to do any training at all.
in fairness, this is partly because employers no longer want to train an employee AT ALL, and want college's to do it for them. You'd get a number of fairly qualified Americans for programming jobs too, employees just don't want to do any training at all.
Not necessarily...we put everyone through six months of training after hiring. We had candidates who couldn't even do simple algebra applying for programming positions. Those people need more than a little training. We would estimate six months to a year before a new employee would contribute anything of value.
The fact that there is a tech labor shortage isn't a 'lie'. Compared to other countries america is very, very behind on STEM education. A few years ago I was working in IT had had to hire programmers. For every 15 qualified people from India I would get MAYBE one qualified american application.
They say they are qualified and its easy to lie when you are from India about credentials. How are you gonna check? For every 15 people who say they are qualified in India you might get one.
They say they are qualified and its easy to lie when you are from India about credentials. How are you gonna check? For every 15 people who say they are qualified in India you might get one.
No one lied...you can't fake your way through a technical interview. When I asked for a specific answer to a technical question, you either get it right or wrong. There is no way to fake anything.
The fact is (whether we like it or not) Americans do not work nearly as hard as people in other countries in STEM type of fields.
There are two sides to this H1B debate. American employers can and should do more to hire fresh BSE graduates who may not have attended the top schools, but who are willing to learn. On the other side, it's harder to find US Citizen STEM PhDs, especially those with a proven record in research and publication. American employers should have the freedom to hire genuine world-class experts from worldwide, without shunting opportunities for entry-level employees right here at home.
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