U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-27-2007, 01:25 PM
 
5,092 posts, read 9,631,246 times
Reputation: 3941

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by tallrick View Post
I have been helping my parents battle the local zoning department (Team Metro) to try and get a permit for solar PV panels. The Government also made it difficult for dad's BioDiesel experiment. I can imagine the hassles that I would get if I start to run my own car on wood again. I agree that Government should be there to help level the playing field, but as of now all they see to do is destroy it.
ahhh, I follow you now.

You are correct. I do see a fair amount of that around here (Dallas, Texas area). Around here it is not exactly government per se, but homeowners in decent parts of town have to battle the Home Owner's Assoications (HOA) that are sort of quasi-corporate-government bodies. They tend to fight solar and windmills are out of the question.

I have come to consider the HOA areas as "fly-over" or dead zones for RE type stuff. Supposed to be driven by a concern for property values. I tell the folks in the battles to put a For Sale in their yard with a "Warning: Bad HOA" as part of the sign. See what that does to the HOAs concerns for property values.

We live in a post-industrial warehouse area that is zoned Industrial Research, so I am pretty much off the leash with anything we want to try, but yes you are correct, many suburbs are future energy wastelands. I suppose it gives fair warning to get out while folks can.

As far as the bio-fuels, I play a little in that, as well. Not a brewer/distiller myself -- not yet at least -- just doing design work for those that are. I have some mixed feelings on govt. regs for that domain. Folks not doing safe and contained methods can cause some really BAD unintended consequences for themselves and anyone in the blast radius. That is a bunch of what the inspections are about, so that part is a good thing. Also the ATF and IRS do track the tax issues, but rebate small producers. I know plenty of folks who do brew and distill, as well as bio-diesel, so from my perspective it can be done safely and within govt. compliance.

My current personal next project will probably be an electric vehicle. Already have some, but nothing yet for the highway. That domain seems under-regulated at this point without even any highway taxes (yet?).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-28-2007, 11:53 PM
 
5,092 posts, read 9,631,246 times
Reputation: 3941
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lincolnian View Post

. . . .

Our corporate leaders have the money, influence, and distribution system to make it happen. The problem is nobody is going to step until there is enough discomfort with the current offerings. Corporations are in business to make money and laying out large amounts of cash in R&D for alternative energy production doesn't fly when your competition is showing better results with the cheaper, currently available form.

. . . .
You might have called that right. Is this the type stuff you had in mind?

Google Press Center: Press Release


==================

Google's Goal: Renewable Energy Cheaper than Coal

Creates renewable energy R&D group and supports breakthrough technologies

Mountain View, Calif. (November 27, 2007) Google (NASDAQ: GOOG) today announced a new strategic initiative to develop electricity from renewable energy sources that will be cheaper than electricity produced from coal.

Moderator cut: do not repost copyrighted material

Media Contact:
Jacquelline Fuller
Google
press@google.com

Last edited by Yac; 12-17-2007 at 03:58 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2007, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Central CT, sometimes NH.
3,257 posts, read 4,927,469 times
Reputation: 3029
Philip T,

Thanks for the information. Yes, this is exactly the type of initiative that needs to take place. Companies like Google definitely "get it." I also was hoping to see more from Dean Kamen and his team. I know that they have been doing a lot outside of the US lately.

I am an educator and one of the reasons that I left private industry was to try and generate the interest in these types of challenges in the students I teach. It's a hard thing to do as many of the students are not seeing the connection due to overemphasis on assessment and not enough variety in exploratory learning. The message from the media doesn't place much importance on mathematics, science or problem solving either. Many kids are more mesmerized by fame, fortune, and conspicuous evidences of wealth.

Despite the odds I'll keep spreading the message. There is definitely money to be made for those who bring inexpenive alternative energy to the market.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Economics
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top