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Old 03-21-2014, 09:04 AM
 
Location: midtown mile area, Atlanta GA
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I went to a job fair yesterday and talked to a HR rep who told me I had to apply for jobs right at midnight when they posted, because she would look only at the first 100 or so. She routinely gets over 500 aps for a single job posting.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
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raising minimum wage would mean less jobs because employers can only spend so much on employee wages.. an employer can hire 2 people paying them $5 per hour, but if minimum wage is $10 per hour, than that employer can only hire 1. it will be even harder to find a job.

the solution is to abolish welfare AND the minimum wage, as the US had for almost 150 years before welfare came in. not only will that take ALL the strain off the current budget, but it will get the lazy off their ass and looking for jobs. without a minimum wage, they'll get paid less but jobs will be plentiful and they will be working and EARNING their living. Then as the debt gets smaller, less of the budget is paid as interest payment, taxes will get lower, economy will grow, their wages will increase and price of living will decrease accordingly.

Totally BS ideas! If someone was working a $5/hr job today the only way they can survive is by living with parents, sharing a room, getting Section 8, food stamps, and Medicaid. THAT'S CORPORATE WELFARE! Many corporations are making record profits today, understaffing and overworking their current workers. Do you remember the extremely HOT ECONOMY in 1999? That was fuelled by the many HIGH WAGES that came from the many Dot com and Y2K work. Higher wages will give people more SPARE SPENDING CASH so they can buy more stuff that stimulates our economy.

Welfare is need for temporary aid, like to the long term unemployed now. It wasn't good when used for Welfare Queens who had multiple babies just to get a lot of free gov aid.

Yeah, and I think minimum wage should be $12/hr, not $7.25 to $8.25. Right now even I would be hesitant to work a minimum wage job, but if it was $12/hr I'd work that PT.
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Old 03-22-2014, 02:31 AM
 
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Yeah, let's be a nation of serfs!
We are. We're just more comfortable serfs. It allows us to be ruled over while maintaining our illusions. Most people don't want to be anything other than serfs, as long as they're comfortable.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
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I'm 5.5 years long term unemployed and I'd treat a good well paying Mech Eng job as GOLD! I'm hungry and would dedicate myself to this job! So I'm not lazy and stubborn! LTU people are hungry for work so they can possibly make a great employee!
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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I went to a job fair yesterday and talked to a HR rep who told me I had to apply for jobs right at midnight when they posted, because she would look only at the first 100 or so. She routinely gets over 500 aps for a single job posting.
Still believe unemployment is under 7%?

The official government numbers for inflation and unemployment are as phony as a 3 dollar bill.
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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Why should they?

You created this mess...you got exactly what you wanted....and now you're whining like an ol' lady.

I guess it never occurred to you that the Long-Term Unemployed are less than mediocre.

That's what happens when you have stupid government polices.....like Student Loans.

The Laws of Economics are inviolable, and when you violate them, stuff like this happens. I hope you learn your lesson before you end up living in a cardboard box eating mud.



It did work, but thanks for misleading people just the same.



What a treat!
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http://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/

You need to work on your reasoning there.





Which was a life-style they chose voluntarily...you left out that part...



http://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/

Do try to be more truthful in future.



I know an old woman who swallowed a fly, why, oh, why, she swallowed a fly, I guess she'll die.



You can thank the Left-Wing for "the staggering lack of jobs."

You should have entered the 5th Level Economy in the mid-1990s. At this point, about 18%-20% of your GDP should come from Research & Development, but it doesn't, because the Left-Wing destroyed your education system. The jobs you lost in Manufacturing --- and those job losses were inevitable -- should have been replaced on almost a one-for-one basis with high-paying R&D jobs.

It's 20 years from the word "go" to position the US to enter the 5th Level Economy.

That means if tomorrow Obama abolishes the Department of Dumbing-Down and rescinds or repeals all "federal" laws and regulations interfering with Education, it would be 2034 before you can even think about entering the 5th Level Economy.

But why would you want to do that? You should continue doing what you're doing, because it's obviously working so well for everyone.



Raising the minimum wage will create more unemployment, and the will not get people off of "government assistance" since government would only lower the bar to include everyone making the new minimum wage.

Thanks for the exercise in tautology.

The best solution is for you to understand that your Standard of Living is going to decline, and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it.

Deal with it....

Mircea
"I know an old woman who swallowed a fly, why, oh, why, she swallowed a fly, I guess she'll die."

Why do you need to belittle this woman's story?

What happened to the magical and mythical re-train for something "marketable" mantra?

Or is nursing no longer a "valuable" or "marketable" "skill"?

I know these in demand skill sets and degrees diminish by the month and year as more people figure out the game and try to load themselves into fewer and fewer overcrowded lifeboats.
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Old 03-23-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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Americans just don't want to do the jobs that exist --- the jobs in construction, fast food and other restaurants, agriculture, truck driving, landscaping. Illegals can come over not knowing a word of English and a 3rd grade education and immediately find work.
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Old 03-23-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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IF it were not for school loans, grants and scholarships, we'd have another 20 million "unemployed". Students are not counted as being unemployed (even tho they ARE). those working half time are not counted as "unemployed", even tho they are. Those working for less than $10 an hour are slowly starving, if they are single, with no kids. The same is true of $20 an hour if they have a kid, or $30 an hour if they have a couple of kids and a non-working wife.
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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This is both a serious question and a venting post. One of the current political debates centers around whether to extend long-term unemployment benefits, which current allows up to 99 weeks of unemployment benefits versus the normal 26 weeks. This bugs me.

If you're unemployed for nearly TWO years, in this improving economy, I think you only have yourself to blame. In the depths of 2008-2010, extending unemployment made sense IMO. However, I canNOT understand how someone today can be unemployed for so long and not (A) get re-trained (you can easily get an associate's degree) or (B) take a lower-paying, lower-skilled job. There is demand out there for many careers attainable in two years, such as healthcare support jobs and skilled trades. If you are too stubborn or lazy to take your life into your own hands, I don't see why taxpayers need to subsidize you.

Yes, I know that the money at stake is a pittance compared to huge money-wasting jobs programs like defense pet projects and ginormous inflated healthcare bills. However, it just totally bothers me that within this debate about long-term unemployment, I rarely hear anyone bring up the viewpoint that two years is just too damn long to be on the dole. Two years of free money is welfare, not unemployment.

With that said, I keep an open mind and would love to learn more about this issue, such as if there is research truly showing the hardship of people who require unemployment for 99 months.
The economy ISN'T improving that's the problem. The jobs that are being created under this so-called recovery are crappy low wage jobs mostly in retail/service sector..with many of those jobs being part-time. If the only jobs available in your area pay $400 a week full time after taxes and you collect $300 a week in tax-free UI benefits that you're guaranteed to get for at least 2 years, then you can't be too surprised when the unemployed doesn't take the bait. Working 40 hours just to earn an extra $100 bucks is a bad deal. Most people don't wanna work, especially if they're being paid not too. So no, it's not as much about laziness as it about human nature and the weakness of socialist policies like UI.
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Old 03-23-2014, 03:51 PM
 
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Americans just don't want to do the jobs that exist --- the jobs in construction, fast food and other restaurants, agriculture, truck driving, landscaping. Illegals can come over not knowing a word of English and a 3rd grade education and immediately find work.
Balderdash. Americans do, indeed, take such jobs, and much worse (did you never watch "Dirty Jobs?").

But an American must be paid minimum wage and employment taxes must be paid on his income. That makes any American much more expensive than an illegal worker.
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