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Only if they have enough meaningful work to do that will produce enough income
for most of them (in excess of 90%) to be able to pay their own way in life.
This used to be the case ... mostly.
But the raw number was closer to 200Million the last time it was true.
What is unfair? A society that actually functions?
Or do you you really consider having enough warm bodies
to wipe the back ends of the elderly to be an actually justifiable standard?
The democrats believe that more and more people would increase votes and decrease labor cost. For rich liberals, it's the best of both worlds.
The democrats believe that more and more people would increase votes and decrease labor cost.
For rich liberals, it's the best of both worlds.
You really believe that nonsense?
The Republicans KNOW that more and more people decreases labor cost.
The religious just want more souls for jesus.
I don't see the Dems or liberals benefitting in any way whatsoever.
All I see them doing is trying to find ways to clean up the mess that the
counterproductive Repub policies and Relig views impose on the rest of us.
The Republicans KNOW that more and more people decreases labor cost.
The religious just want more souls for jesus.
I don't see the Dems or liberals benefitting in any way whatsoever.
All I see them doing is trying to find ways to clean up the mess that the
counterproductive Repub policies and Relig views impose on the rest of us.
Why not? New immigrants these days overwhelmingly favor the democrats. Young people are leaving the republicans in droves. If I were the Democratic Party, I would think man we should get more of these people here. They are never going to get anywhere, which is just right, because then they will vote for us and fight among themselves.
You know, political parties have no causes. They have a different thing that starts with a C. Career. In that sense, political parties of any kind are quite similar and uninspirational. It's all about power, money, and sex.
..........China doesn't have a catastrophe and it's not the biggest in human history. You over exaggerate the situation. They have loosened up and not even that much yet............
You should Google up "China Demographic Time Bomb". There are dozens of articles out there written by qualified people and they all end up with the same conclusion.
Another catastrophe is Russia, whose population has decreased by 15 million people in the past 25 years. They are down to 148 million.
There is not a single country in Europe with a birth rate of greater than 2.0, which is what is necessary to maintain a modern population.
World's population is shifting, but it has stopped growing. India. Pakistan. Nigeria. Those 3 are growing, and maybe a few minor countries.
So internal justice and fairness suddenly don't matter anymore. And it's people who benefit from it don't care. How surprising. Who would know right. It's like a white person saying to a black person bet his is just the way it is. And it's been said ever since.
China doesn't have a catastrophe and it's not the biggest in human history. You over exaggerate the situation. They have loosened up and not even that much yet.
With the electorate like ours, we certainly won't see any real change. In fact our population growth is mostly in the lower working class who have little to no social mobility. The way it is going to be is that the US will become much more like central and South America. You want to talk about te way te going to be? That's how it is going to be. And make no mistake, these people want more children right. They are going to fall out of the middle class and their kids will have no opportunity. There.
You speak bilge and mask it in the language of justice. Then, as an extra bonus, you try to squeeze in the race card. You know when someone has run out of bullets when he resorts to that.
Actually, according to the United Nations, China's working age population will drop by roughly 250,000,000 between now and 2050. That's a staggering number. 250 million. That mean that there will be one working person supporting roughly 3.5 others. These are unsustainable numbers, especially when you realize that the Chinese do not have anything approaching a sophisticated investment system, as witnessed by the enormous real estate bubble there. People don't buy stocks or save in China. They buy and flip property.
And these enormous demographic imbalances that are building are a direct result of one-couple/one-child policies that you advocate. In truth, China will get old before it gets rich and the results will not be pretty at all. Less and less of China's GDP will go towards growth, chiefly because it will be a society that's overwhelmed by caring for its huge elderly population. All you have to do is look at Japan. They are looking at a 30% drop in their population over the next several decades. And it's already taking a toll on the country, which now has a public debt/GDP ratio of 2.37. Just to give you a frame of reference, the U.S. is at 1.06.
What's more, you don't even seem to give thought to the fact that a burgeoning elderly population caused by penalizing two children families will yield a rapidly weakening economy, one that cannot actually support the elderly population. Social Security and the rest of the safety net programs for the elderly actually require a sufficient ratio of workers to beneficiaries to work. When it comes to government expenditures, an 80-year-old requires a great deal more than an 8- or 18-year old. So while
Finally, you don't even seem to be paying attention to the population numbers in this country. Right now, the fertility rate in the United States has actually dropped to 1.86 births per woman, when the replacement rate is actually 2.1. That's lower than Australia, Great Britain, Sweden. Those are countries that have actively encouraged higher birth rates because they understand the long term consequences of low birth rates.
As for the rest of your post? Uninformed nonsense.
The democrats believe that more and more people would increase votes and decrease labor cost. For rich liberals, it's the best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by Costaexpress
Why not? New immigrants these days overwhelmingly favor the democrats. Young people are leaving the republicans in droves. If I were the Democratic Party, I would think man we should get more of these people here. They are never going to get anywhere, which is just right, because then they will vote for us and fight among themselves.
You know, political parties have no causes. They have a different thing that starts with a C. Career. In that sense, political parties of any kind are quite similar and uninspirational. It's all about power, money, and sex.
Where do you read this stuff?
You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Immigration policy is strictly about our faltering birth rates. We are not at replacement rate. We risk a declining economy if we penalize people for having children. That is just asinine. You really need to do some reading.
Some people are missing the bit that people die after awhile in their old age. Your "catastrophes" may cause a economic decline that would last only temporarily. In the long run, reduced birth rates are for the better.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Immigration policy is strictly about our faltering birth rates. We are not at replacement rate. We risk a declining economy if we penalize people for having children. That is just asinine. You really need to do some reading.
And yet you didn't read my post that you replied to. I said that if I were the democrats I would get more and more of these people here. That way I would get votes and cheap labor. These people will not get anywhere. They Are unskilled and uneducAted. Their job would be to vote for the dems. The dems are going to get some stuff for them but never much. They will have fight among themselves for a terrible oversupply of labor and a tragic shortage of jobs.
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