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No, what that meant is that I've no idea what you are talking about and haven't the interest to go find out. If you want to explain, go ahead and I'll form an opinion on your explanation.
Nah, makes no sense. The country as a whole benefits from whatever degree of uniformity we've managed to work into public education. I'm not talking about standardized testing and the usual Department of Education BS - I'm talking about a kid from the wrong side of the tracks in podunk rural state having roughly the same education as rich kid from the big city.
What uniformity? Even from discussing the issue on C-D, it is clear that parents often live 30+ minutes away from work so their kids can have access to better public schooling. If there was uniformity, this wouldn't be so common.
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Originally Posted by prosopis
The rather dopey idea that people's property taxes should reflect their reproductive choices would just aggravate the educational disparities we already see in public schools.
Why is having taxes dependent on family size any more of an issue in that respect than having them depend on house values? They are already a lot higher in HCOL areas like the DC area for instance than they are in LCOL areas such as suburban Midwest or rural deep South.
What uniformity? Even from discussing the issue on C-D, it is clear that parents often live 30+ minutes away from work so their kids can have access to better public schooling. If there was uniformity, this wouldn't be so common.
Yes, there are already disparities. It seems to me that your property tax idea would simply make them worse, and if we are to entertain novel ideas, they should perhaps be ones that improve things. On the other hand, perhaps where you live the rates are high enough that it seems to be a painful bite - out here the rates are very reasonable, and that distinction will naturally influence our divergent views on the matter.
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Why is having taxes dependent on family size any more of an issue in that respect than having them depend on house values? They are already a lot higher in HCOL areas like the DC area for instance than they are in LCOL areas such as suburban Midwest or rural deep South.
It isn't really, when it comes right down to it we could simply eliminate all forms of taxation but one and keep everything much more simple. I tend to prefer keeping many decisions and policies local, which property taxes are.
Yes, there are already disparities. It seems to me that your property tax idea would simply make them worse, and if we are to entertain novel ideas, they should perhaps be ones that improve things. On the other hand, perhaps where you live the rates are high enough that it seems to be a painful bite - out here the rates are very reasonable, and that distinction will naturally influence our divergent views on the matter.
It isn't really, when it comes right down to it we could simply eliminate all forms of taxation but one and keep everything much more simple. I tend to prefer keeping many decisions and policies local, which property taxes are.
Ok, now I'm unclear on why you think my proposal would make things worse, given that you admit to a lack of uniformity in public schooling and property taxes under the current system.
Ok, now I'm unclear on why you think my proposal would make things worse, given that you admit to a lack of uniformity in public schooling and property taxes under the current system.
Lack of uniformity is your phrase, disparity in quality is mine.
Even if I go with your phrase though, why do you assume that uniformity is an all or nothing, 0 or 1, sort of quantity. I would say it is a scale from complete to nothing, with an infinite set of points between.
How uniform is the current public schooling, on average? Who knows. 50% say, just for the sake of argument. What I'm saying is that under your proposal, however fair it may be objectively, that 50% will drop to 25% or some other completely arbitrary amount.
I may be wrong about all this, but it seems to me a pretty obvious cause and effect.
Lack of uniformity is your phrase, disparity in quality is mine.
Even if I go with your phrase though, why do you assume that uniformity is an all or nothing, 0 or 1, sort of quantity. I would say it is a scale from complete to nothing, with an infinite set of points between.
How uniform is the current public schooling, on average? Who knows. 50% say, just for the sake of argument. What I'm saying is that under your proposal, however fair it may be objectively, that 50% will drop to 25% or some other completely arbitrary amount.
I may be wrong about all this, but it seems to me a pretty obvious cause and effect.
Why? Shouldn't there be more uniformity, rather than less, if education expenses and property tax revenue are more in line?
The way things are now, areas with more childless households have less education expense but similar revenue. The money per pupil in the local public school system is thus larger than in an area with more families with lots of kids.
Under my proposal, this would no longer be the case.
Why? Shouldn't there be more uniformity, rather than less, if education expenses and property tax revenue are more in line?
The way things are now, areas with more childless households have less education expense but similar revenue. The money per pupil in the local public school system is thus larger than in an area with more families with lots of kids.
Under my proposal, this would no longer be the case.
If property taxes were levied uniformly throughout the states and country, you are correct that there would be little effect. Property taxes, however, are levied at the county level.
Property taxes, however, are levied at the county level.
Not always true. In some states it's not true at all.
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