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Old 02-09-2015, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Anyone? And why? It certainly wouldn't be the end of the U.S., as Argentina is still alive, after having defaulted 8 other times, and they always seem to find suckers to buy their junk bonds!

Anyone can think of some of the biggest pluses and minuses to this happening? Would we, perhaps, end up losing an island, or 2, in Hawaii, or Alaska, to the Chinese, as a result of it?

And what kind of austerity measures (some for the good of the country?) might we be facing, as a result of it, and which austerity measures would you favor?

This has never been a big worry of mine. For sure, we'd probably be forgiven for the first time we did it, and the 2nd time, perhaps not so forgiving?
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Old 02-09-2015, 10:29 PM
 
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Anyone? And why? It certainly wouldn't be the end of the U.S., as Argentina is still alive, after having defaulted 8 other times!

Anyone can think of some of the biggest pluses and minuses to this happening? Would we, perhaps, end up losing an island, or 2, in Hawaii, or Alaska, to the Chinese, as a result of it?

And what kind of austerity measures (some for the good of the country?) might we be facing, as a result of it?

This has never been a big worry of mine. For sure, we'd probably be forgiven for the first time we did it, and the 2nd time, perhaps not so forgiving?
I want to see them try to take a piece of us.
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Old 02-10-2015, 01:07 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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I'm looking forward to having a thriving economy after China takes us over.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:15 AM
 
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The United States can only default if it chooses to. All it's "debt" is issued in its own currency. (No country can "force" the U.S. into default)

Let me know when you awaken from your dream.
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Old 02-10-2015, 09:28 AM
 
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The USA owns very little foreign denominated debt. I think the OP means foreign owned US debt. And we have zero reason to default on it.
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Old 02-12-2015, 04:48 PM
 
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UMMMMMM, why and how would the USA default?????????

Can't the USA always pay-off our debtors with the UNLIMITED dollars that
can be printed/electronically-allocated at will????????????????

When someone is owed money by the USA, they are going to get DOLLARS as payment....not silver, not gold, not priceless art, not property.................US DOLLARS IS THEIR REIMBURSEMENT!
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Old 02-12-2015, 04:54 PM
 
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The United States can only default if it chooses to. All it's "debt" is issued in its own currency. (No country can "force" the U.S. into default)

Let me know when you awaken from your dream.


It's always funny when people don't understand this
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Old 02-17-2015, 06:51 PM
 
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Anyone? And why? It certainly wouldn't be the end of the U.S., as Argentina is still alive, after having defaulted 8 other times, and they always seem to find suckers to buy their junk bonds!

Anyone can think of some of the biggest pluses and minuses to this happening? Would we, perhaps, end up losing an island, or 2, in Hawaii, or Alaska, to the Chinese, as a result of it?

And what kind of austerity measures (some for the good of the country?) might we be facing, as a result of it, and which austerity measures would you favor?

This has never been a big worry of mine. For sure, we'd probably be forgiven for the first time we did it, and the 2nd time, perhaps not so forgiving?
We can't default. All we have to do is hand them a check. Our debts are valued in our money. So we can't default. Not at the federal level anyway.
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Old 02-17-2015, 07:56 PM
 
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The USA owns very little foreign denominated debt. I think the OP means foreign owned US debt. And we have zero reason to default on it.
Not to mention we can't default we can monetize it but not default on it. I'm talking about the publicly head national debt here.
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Old 02-18-2015, 04:47 AM
 
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U.s debt is denominated in U.s Dollars.

We can always guarantee payment. We just cannot guarantee the value of those payments.

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This has never been a big worry of mine. For sure, we'd probably be forgiven
for the first time we did it, and the 2nd time, perhaps not so forgiving?
What are they going to do? Invade the U.s mainland?




American hegemony is based on the petro-dollar being the reserve currency. Any attack on the dollar is an attack on the U.s military.
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