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Old 03-11-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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So I really wanted the new little Caesars bacon pizza today (it's not that great), and had to drive into a poverty stricken area to get to the pizzeria.

This took me back to my youth as I grew up in a similar area. And it sucked, so I did everything I could to ensure I would not be stuck there. Stayed away from drugs and the bad crowd, studied hard, and joined the military (allowed me to repay my moral debt from growing up on food stamps and Medicaid, while also giving me an out and a great technical education).

I know it's not all choice. Not everyone can join the military, or go to college, but theses down trodden areas out number the nice ones in my city, and multigenerational poverty is real, but why?

Why settle? And for what? Dollar Generals, tire shops, and dusty lots coupled with crime, drugs, and crappy schools.
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Old 03-11-2015, 12:36 PM
 
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Because not everyone is a materialistic ****, I suppose.

Some people are struggling to take care of parents, etc. Some people have given up. Some people ARE IN SCHOOL or the military and trying their hardest to overcome. Some people have severe medical problems. Some are depressed or suffering in grief, while a small percent could be drug addicts. Some are working 2 jobs and still barely scrape by. The reasons are all very personal and should be see to on an individual basis; judging an entire 1/3 of the population like this just makes you look ignorant.
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:05 PM
 
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Because not everyone is a materialistic ****, I suppose.

Some people are struggling to take care of parents, etc. Some people have given up. Some people ARE IN SCHOOL or the military and trying their hardest to overcome. Some people have severe medical problems. Some are depressed or suffering in grief, while a small percent could be drug addicts. Some are working 2 jobs and still barely scrape by. The reasons are all very personal and should be see to on an individual basis; judging an entire 1/3 of the population like this just makes you look ignorant.
Asking, not judging. I was reflecting on this deeply on my drive back home, and knew of no better group of people than CD'ers to contemplate the issue of multigenerational poverty with.

And materialistic ****? Hate to break it to you, but I don't value things, I do value family and my kids though. I do appericate the judgement from someone accusing me of being judgmental, that's an Internet gem.

And again, I grew up in poverty. No car, no cellphones, using food stamps and state healthcare. I had my welfare Christmases where I'd ask for a soccer ball and get a flashlight. And that was a major reason to join the military (repayment for the welfare and an escape from poverty).

Poverty sucked. I just don't get how anyone could tolerate it when there seemingly are so many escapes.
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Nobody chooses to be poor.
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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In large part:

Inability to accept delayed gratification.
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:28 PM
 
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Nobody chooses to be poor.
Sure they do.

You CHOOSE to buy more "stuff" than your income, you've made a choice to be poor.

You CHOOSE to forgo an education or training because you can't be bothered, you've made a choice to be poor.

You CHOOSE to have more children than you can afford, you've made a choice to be poor.

Lots of people make those choices.
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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I'm not an economist, sociologist, or political scientist, but in my limited life experience, I see 3 things people must do to have the best chance of staying out of poverty. First, finish high school. Second, get a job -- any job -- because it shows you have a work ethic. Third, don't have more children than you can afford without government help.
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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Nobody chooses to be poor.
Sure they do.
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:54 PM
 
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I'm not an economist, sociologist, or political scientist, but in my limited life experience, I see 3 things people must do to have the best chance of staying out of poverty. First, finish high school. Second, get a job -- any job -- because it shows you have a work ethic. Third, don't have more children than you can afford without government help.
Don't have children at all.
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Old 03-11-2015, 03:02 PM
 
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Nobody chooses to be poor.


Of course people choose to be poor, not all people who are poor choose to be that way but to say nobody does is simply false
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