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Old 04-04-2015, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Purgatory
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It's sad to know one can go on SSDI because of obesity.
It's not "obesity" in itself, it's the symptoms that obesity causes. (eg, htn, tachycardia, impaired mobility, back pain, etc.)
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Old 04-04-2015, 06:50 PM
 
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Defense is about 18% of the budget vs. Social Security at 24%. If you start adding other social programs that number climbs even higher. There's just too many people on the take
I don't consider retirees who paid into soc. sec. throughout their working years as "on the take". And with so many younger people working with no retirement plan from their employers, they will probably need soc. sec. when they are old too. I don't know what the answer is for funding it better/fairer, but I hope a solution is found.
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Old 04-04-2015, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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All these suggestions seem to be to fund an ever growing welfare state.
Eventually you run out of people to suck money from.

And then what ?

The issues is not that corporates aren't paying their taxes. They are on US profits. The issue is that the US also wants taxes on their foreign generated profits which they won't do.

Google pays 2.4%. How many working American's can claim to pay just 2.4% in taxes? Hell if you live in a state that collects a sales tax, you pay more then that just in sales tax.

Simple solution: If a corporation earns income in the United States, then make them pay US taxes on it, the same way individuals have to. Do that, and all of our problems are solved.

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Old 04-04-2015, 07:26 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area (recent MN transplant...go gophers)
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First, major props for in_newengland for their point on PTSD. That, along with other mental disorders, are not some cutesy "lol they aren't disabled" situations, especially when considering veterans. They are very real and can cause some very real hardship. Now, do some people fake it? Yeah, and they deserve a spot somewhere between the 5th and 6th levels of hell, but that's not enough to dismiss these disorders out of hand.

Probably the biggest issue with SSDI currently that needs to be solved is what galaxyhi brought up. While it's in the severe minority of SSDI cases, there are specific attorney and medical offices that basically advertise free disability. You can really see where they are at their biggest strength with this map, where the amount of successful disability cases in a certain region dwarf other ones to an almost ridiculous point. Southern West Virginia, eastern Kentucky, the Delta area in Mississippi/Louisiana, and rural Alabama/Georgia are hotbeds for this kind of problem. Hell, McDowell County in WV has 10.5% of its citizens on SSDI, twice the rate of Wyoming County just north of it. If anything is going to kill SSDI, that's probably going to be it.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:28 PM
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Real change doesn't happen because the general public doesn't want change.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:32 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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"Social Security disability fund to go broke next year" Thoughts?

The article is BS.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:39 PM
 
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"Social Security disability fund to go broke next year" Thoughts?

The article is BS.
What's your rebuttal and please don't post something off Motherjones.
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:04 PM
 
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They need to do some investigations and stop paying disability to people who are in perfectly good health. Like that guy playing one of the dancing rodents in the Kia commercial.
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I agree. Since missiles cost about $1 million each, we could take a year or two off from bombing places. That should help a bit.

Ive read where if the wealthy paid SS tax on 100% of their income it would clear up at least 88% of the problems with SS. If they dont want to pay, and everyone knows they dont, they could just not collect money they dont need in the first place. That would probably help too.

They could also reform SS. Like not providing benefits to people who never paid into it in the first place.

Where can a 'refugee American' immigrate to, and go directly onto a guaranteed government provided pension?

There's lots of things that could have been and could still be done to stave off the problem.

Public works projects to get citizens gainfully employed, and paying into the system would help a lot too.

There are lots of abuses that have drained the system. Reform SS and put it back to what it was originally meant for.
This should be the first thing cut, IMO. This is complete and utter bull. They say they can't work because they cant understand what their bosses are saying, and their bosses can't understand them. What a dilemma.

http://www.vdare.com/posts/senator-s...y-more-quickly

“I write to express my concerns about the expanding number of individuals now qualified for Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI), and to raise a specific issue, the basis for many of these individuals’ disability classification, where the inability to speak English is a determinative factor,” Sessions said.
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:06 PM
 
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A common suggestion is to shore up the disability insurance trust fund by simply shifting payroll tax funds from Social Security's much larger retirement trust fund, which is projected to remain solvent through 2034. In other words, one year of retirement fund solvency buys you 17 years of disability trust fund solvency.
Not within the SS law. Read the SS trustee report.
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Old 04-04-2015, 09:15 PM
 
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I read this article and am still extremely confused about where is benefits came from. They called it "STATE disability benefits." SSDI is federal and the cap is about ~$2,600 hundreds a month and the majority of recipients take in under 1k.
I *think* this was worker's comp disability which would be STATE and would explain the larger payments. What an idiot. He really thought he was getting away with something.
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