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More exciting tales from the crypt! I would suspect however that the closest to any actual inter-governmental negotiation you've ever been would be along the lines of a bunch of alarmist YouTube nonsense produced by some whackjob sociophobe living out a life of fear as a Montana Mountainman. Am I close?
this post is a very strange way to deflect from the point by staging some weird attack on me and questioning my own involvement with intergovernmental negotiations. I haven't been involved in any but im sure I have paid the price of many just like countless millions of other people have (many paying a much higher price than myself).
I assure you that politicians negotiating purely for their own benefit with the power of government and dollars of taxpayers appreciate you believing that they are doing you a favor by keeping their negotiations secret.
Politicians are not typically the ones who do the negotiating of international agreements. To me, this is another indication of how removed you seem to be from the actual facts of these matters.
Politicians are not typically the ones who do the negotiating of international agreements. To me, this is another indication of how removed you seem to be from the actual facts of these matters.
its comical to see you pretend to be some kind of know-it-all and be totally wrong in the process. its like you are counting on the notion that if you sound confident, people will just believe you and not research your statements.
obama seems to believe he is negotiating and im pretty sure he is a politicians. members of his administrative staff and people appointed by him are also politicians that are involved. so the trade agreement is clearly being negotiated by politicians. if you want to pretend to be some kind of expert, you should first do some research.
its comical to see you pretend to be some kind of know-it-all and be totally wrong in the process. its like you are counting on the notion that if you sound confident, people will just believe you and not research your statements.
I'm retired now but was for 25 years a US rep to various international financial bodies and led or assisted in the negotiation of dozens of international financial agreements. I am not a politician, and except on rare occasions, neither were those sitting alongside me. Any questions, Captain?
I'm retired now but was for 25 years a US rep to various international financial bodies and led or assisted in the negotiation of dozens of international financial agreements. I am not a politician, and except on rare occasions, neither were those sitting alongside me. Any questions, Captain?
this is some of the most ridiculous stuff ive ever read. i don't really know what negotiations you were involved in but it doesn't change the fact that the trans pacific agreement's negotiations are directed by politicians. i suppose some fool employee sitting at a table talking to some foreign diplomat may think he is negotiating but his positions and the ultimate approval of any deal is going to be directed by politicians. nobody is buying what you are trying to sell Barbara.
I'm retired now but was for 25 years a US rep to various international financial bodies and led or assisted in the negotiation of dozens of international financial agreements. I am not a politician, and except on rare occasions, neither were those sitting alongside me. Any questions, Captain?
Welcome back.
No doubt in addition to managing a fine restaurant, directing several charities, and turning lead into gold with rental property . . .
As a president that is regularly for championing labor rights why is he pushing this through without debate options, and only allowing yes/no votes?
I conjecture the guy has some private interests pushing him to do this and offering him rewards upon the end of his presidency. The question is how can we protest?
NAFTA was already a collosal failure. The only winners in these "free trade" agreements are international corporations. They use "free trade" as a way to dismantle union power. What's worse is this agreement appears to be no different in that it will leave the USA playing by the rules while everyone else breaks them to suck every last dollar out of us.
This is essentially NAFTA for the Pacific. Obama is trying to fast track this without public support.
what arse, you know full well the Republicans are fully supporting this agreement.
What worries me is not that Obama, or the reps or dems are supporting it, it is that they are all working together to allow this to pass with ease...
That makes me worry it is good for large business and bad for the man on the street.
More than anything we need to pull up the bottom half of the country , if you want your kids and their kids to have happy safe lives then we need to start doing something about those on the wrong side of the gap... left wing right wing, bush or Obama who gives a crap we need to stop the waste, stop the free fall.
I conjecture the guy has some private interests pushing him to do this and offering him rewards upon the end of his presidency.
I think the oligarchs have been pushing him all along. Rhetoric and small moves distract from the really important move that completely nullifies the others.
The reward may be as simple as letting him live, although I'm sure there will be other bonuses in addition.
I think the oligarchs have been pushing him all along. Rhetoric and small moves distract from the really important move that completely nullifies the others.
The reward may be as simple as letting him live, although I'm sure there will be other bonuses in addition.
He'll make sure to give a speech on marijuana legalization and gay rights while doing this to distract the dumb masses.
The average Congressman outperforms the stock market by over 12%. They're in it for themselves. With a 2 party system both sides can be bribed easily. We need a system similar to Germany, where any party getting 5% of the vote gets a voting seat. Much harder to bribe everyone that way.
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