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I agree that a Venezuelan switch to using the US dollar is much more than highly unlikely, but the hostility arrow points in quite the other direction. The Venezuelan government for years sent free home heating oil to hundreds of thousands of low-income Americans in cold weather states. In return, the US government funded efforts to destabilize the country, including the encouragement of armed coups against Venezuela's democratically elected leaders.
I don't believe the US government encouraged armed coups against the Venezuela leaders but I can believe that Chavez & Maduro constantly made that accusation.
As far as Chavez and Maduro, I work with about 15 Venezuelans and they all say terrible things about the governance they are getting including horrible corruption and crime that is completely out of control with a murder rate at the top in the world. Maduro apparently talks to Chavez through the medium of a dog is what I've been told.
But as you say, they are democratically elected so there you have it.
I don't believe the US government encouraged armed coups against the Venezuela leaders but I can believe that Chavez & Maduro constantly made that accusation.
You can believe whatever you like. People's beliefs didn't do anything to make WMDs more real, however. In extensions of long-standing US policies of meddling and intervention, we tried to kill Fidel Castro and overthrow Daniel Ortega, we did kill Ngo Dinh Diem and Salvador Allende, and we did help fund the 2002 coup in Venezuela through right-wing "free press" organizations (e.g., the National Endowment for Democracy) that funneled cash to media organizers and their counter-revolutionary goon squads.
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As far as Chavez and Maduro, I work with about 15 Venezuelans and they all say terrible things...
LOL! Do you know anything about selection-bias? What do you think you would hear about Obama from 15 people at a CPAC meeting?
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But as you say, they are democratically elected so there you have it.
Yes, there you have it. Unless the actual people who work and live and struggle in Venezuela are to be disenfranchised by soreheaded reactionaries and self-serving neo-colonialists.
LOL! Do you know anything about selection-bias? What do you think you would hear about Obama from 15 people at a CPAC meeting?
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So I guess people who work is a selection bias....I'll take that biased group over non-working selection bias opinions. Unlike you, I have no pre-formed strong opinions about Venezuela and their government other than what I have heard from Venezuelans that I work with...and they are far from complementary. What is it that makes you think you know so much more about Venezuela than the 15 Venezuelans that I work with?
The fact that you live, work, and went to school in the United States, and that all of your Venezuelan friends very likely did and do as well, suggests that they do not come from among the peasant-folk of Venezuela, those being the large majority of the Venezuelan people. Rather it suggests that they come from among the small and murderous privileged oppressor class.
The fact that you live, work, and went to school in the United States, and that all of your Venezuelan friends very likely did and do as well, suggests that they do not come from among the peasant-folk of Venezuela, those being the large majority of the Venezuelan people. Rather it suggests that they come from among the small and murderous privileged oppressor class.
I work in South America and they do as well and most did not go to school or work in the USA.
Ah, so that's why all your posts say Washington State. But do tell us then what sort of social class your workmates come from...peasants or oligarchs? If all the latter, that's what I meant by selection-bias. Not that hard a thing to understand, really. The CPAC example should have made things more than clear as day.
Ah, so that's why all your posts say Washington State. But do tell us then what sort of social class your workmates come from...peasants or oligarchs? If all the latter, that's what I meant by selection-bias. Not that hard a thing to understand, really. The CPAC example should have made things more than clear as day.
I work all over the world as a Consultant with an Engineering Company and been working in Peru for almost a year now but maintain my primary residence in Washington State. I don't know and don't care what their social class is or was only that they perform their work well, which they do.
At this point, the peasants are yearning for the early Chavez years when Chavez had managed to raise incomes and standards of living for many families but before the public sector bungled with private sector so much that you had to send grandma out to stand in line for five hours to hopefully buy some scarce toilet paper.
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