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Old 08-02-2015, 06:15 AM
 
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Read the comment from "James" about housing/homeownership in New York City, in particular Manhattan. He has broken things down quite well and sums things up pretty accurately.
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Of course this applies mainly to NYC in particular Manhattan and perhaps the other "hot" areas in parts of Brooklyn and Queens.
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Old 08-02-2015, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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Read the comment from "James" about housing/homeownership in New York City, in particular Manhattan.
Actually he hasn't broken things down well.

Use this: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...abt=0002&abg=0
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Old 08-02-2015, 07:01 AM
 
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"James" needs to get a new tax advisor.

Also, "mainly in NYC" should have been "only on the Upper West Side of NYC." His tale has no applicability outside of that odd and seemingly self-pitying little enclave.

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Old 08-04-2015, 09:57 PM
 
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Home-ownership has no bearing on the economy, and it is absurd to suggest that a successful economy requires a large percentage of people owning homes.
Completely agree, although it seems like many would like you to believe the whole economy is based on housing. Home ownership, when healthy, is good for communities and a society. However, many want the flexibility of being able to move when they need to for jobs, etc.

As a single guy, I'm not in a hurry or concerned about buying a property. My apartment works fine for me and is not a large % of my monthly income. I'm able to save and invest money that would otherwise be paying for home ownership items such as repairs. If I were to take a 30 year mortgage, I would essentially be renting from the bank for the first 10 years or so anyway.

In the current case people under 35 (mostly first time home buyers) are out of the market due to student debt and the economy. What has happened over the last 7 years since the crash is a huge distribution of wealth. Many of the large real estate investment groups have bought up tons of real estate and rented it out. Many got deals from Fannie and Freddie to buy thousands of properties at pennies on the dollar.
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Old 08-05-2015, 06:38 AM
 
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What has happened over the last 7 years since the crash is a huge distribution of wealth. Many of the large real estate investment groups have bought up tons of real estate and rented it out. Many got deals from Fannie and Freddie to buy thousands of properties at pennies on the dollar.
Can you be more specific about that? My partners and I are not aware of these Fannie/Freddie programs but would be quite interested in deals that would allow us to buy up significant numbers of properties at pennies on the dollar. Google didn't turn up anything for me...
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Old 08-05-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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Fannie/Freddie programs but would be quite interested in deals that would allow us to buy up significant numbers of properties at pennies on the dollar. Google didn't turn up anything for me...
Fannie Mae Uncorks First Sale of Delinquent Loans - Developments - WSJ


Fannie Mae completes first non-performing loan sale | 2015-05-15 | HousingWire

Notice the price for the sale is not given, but it's whispered to be around 25% or less.
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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Thanks. Also this one:

Fannie to sell foreclosed homes as rental properties - Feb. 29, 2012


I will add because I work in the industry and have spoke with legit sources that many of the distressed homes that were supposed to be kept and rented were sold well before the holding timeframe. Additionally, most of the time the discount was more than 25%.

There were also a couple of large real estate investment groups buying lots of these properties. One of the head guys at one of the companies even basically said so on a business program a few years back.
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Old 08-07-2015, 03:35 PM
 
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Notice the price for the sale is not given, but it's whispered to be around 25% or less.
They are selling off LOANS. That's pieces of paper, not HOUSES.
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Old 08-07-2015, 03:53 PM
 
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Thanks. Also this one:
There were actual rental houses involved in that deal dug up from three and a half years ago, but in small numbers and sold with strict qualifying requirements.

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I will add because I work in the industry and have spoke with legit sources that many of the distressed homes that were supposed to be kept and rented were sold well before the holding timeframe. Additionally, most of the time the discount was more than 25%. There were also a couple of large real estate investment groups buying lots of these properties. One of the head guys at one of the companies even basically said so on a business program a few years back.
It's "have spoken", Maestro, and if the Great Recession did not at last teach you that what is said on cable business programs is apt to be nothing but a bunch of self-serving malarkey, then nothing ever will.

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Old 08-07-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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There were actual houses involved in that deal dug up from three and a half years ago, but in small numbers and sold with strict qualifying requirements.


It's "have spoken", Maestro, and if the Great Recession did not at last teach you that what is said on cable business programs is apt to be nothing but a bunch of self-serving malarkey, then nothing ever will.

Fine, believe what you want. I was simply adding from what I know and from many others have said, the pieces go together. Either way, Fannie packaged homes together (sometimes thousands at a time) and sold them to large real estate investment groups at a very discounted price.

News Release - Fannie Mae Announces Initial Sale of Non-Performing Loans | Fannie Mae

http://fanniemaereo.com/bulk-reo/
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