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Old 01-11-2016, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Am I clear enough??
Well, no.

In your latest round of foaming at the mouth fist shaking you made the claim that the government cooks the books on unemployment numbers, specifically that civil servants manufacture numbers as propaganda. When asked to provide proof you've done nothing but ignore or attempt diversion, so we're still not clear on how you know the books are cooked other than because you say so.

So I again invite you to show us some evidence of this great conspiracy at BLS, something more substantial than angry bitter guy on the internet forum saying so.
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Well, no.

In your latest round of foaming at the mouth fist shaking you made the claim that the government cooks the books on unemployment numbers, specifically that civil servants manufacture numbers as propaganda. When asked to provide proof you've done nothing but ignore or attempt diversion, so we're still not clear on how you know the books are cooked other than because you say so.

So I again invite you to show us some evidence of this great conspiracy at BLS, something more substantial than angry bitter guy on the internet forum saying so.
Mr. Icookstats.
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:55 PM
 
Location: SOLARIS
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Of course they cook the books. That is the way of any oppressor. Why would they tell you truths? Do they owe it to you?

After 9/11 took place anyone that had any teetering doubt on the integrity of their government should have had all doubts removed.

This lying isn't isolated to government. PHDs and other carnegie mellon indoctrinated proud fellows will use charts and graphs to make an argument like there's no tomorrow. All they care about is if what they say is condoned by who's funding them. The rest is just about being very convincing to an audience by flooding them with facts and stats that the average person finds impressive.

There is no obligation for them or anyone to tell the truth about anything.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Of course they cook the books. That is the way of any oppressor. Why would they tell you truths? Do they owe it to you?

After 9/11 took place anyone that had any teetering doubt on the integrity of their government should have had all doubts removed.

This lying isn't isolated to government. PHDs and other carnegie mellon indoctrinated proud fellows will use charts and graphs to make an argument like there's no tomorrow. All they care about is if what they say is condoned by who's funding them. The rest is just about being very convincing to an audience by flooding them with facts and stats that the average person finds impressive.

There is no obligation for them or anyone to tell the truth about anything.
Telling the truth as one sees it either party of one's ethical value system or it isn't. The key to understanding the way the economy works is that those in high places will do anything for money and lying about what they know is no problem at all for them. To actually believe any of these statistics and use them in decision making is naive and a major blunder in life. They should be completely ignored.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:32 AM
 
Location: Spain
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Mr. Icookstats.
Exactly.

Nonsense answers, attempts at diversion... clearly you have exactly zero ability to back up your claim.
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Old 01-12-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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They've been measuring unemployment the same way for decades.
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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They've been measuring unemployment the same way for decades.
Sorry. Was that "measuring" or "fudging".

D.C., Inc, is just like any corporation that spend most of its time, energy, and resources, deceiving the public. The goal? To keep feeding itself off hard working (and I mean real work) families.

No difference from any other corporation. If you want a case study in the Art of Deception, read the transcript of the complete telephone conversation with Alcoa's CEO that occurred after they reported yesterday. Notice how many times the analysts asked him the same question about forward earnings and how it kept dodging. And then read how it was reported

Differences between Government deception and private industry deception is non-existent. It's all about transferring money from Workers to Parasites.
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Old 01-12-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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I got a say i don't really care why total strangers are out of work . No one knows why . COULD BE LOADS OF REASONS AND PERSONALLY I DON'T CARE TO EVEN CARE .

Just worry about if you are out of work otherwise forget about it .

if you are are working , your family and friends are working that is all that counts . in the end what those numbers are is not going to change your daily life unless it is someone you know and care about .

there are more important things folks should be learning and doing instead of wondering why mary the druggy or lazy jim are not working .
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Right. Now who in their right mind is going to take advice from someone who doesn't care what happens to other people?
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Old 01-12-2016, 10:04 AM
 
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i don't care about numbers we can't interpret . therefore they are as meaningless as your own concocted views are in the investing forum .
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