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I remember hearing leftist talk about how Chavez and his regime was proof socialism could work. Well I wonder what these people are saying now.
LOL!
They just ignore the evidence and move on to some other country where it's not as bad (i.e. Sweden or Denmark) and insist we can magically graft that low corruption culture onto the U.S. if we just vote for Bernie Sanders and his ilk.
But further developments in AI and automation will make most of the workers, soldiers, and the public obsolete. What will "work the best" then will be extermination. Does that make it a good idea?
That's exactly what some of the global elite have in mind:
Get prepared for a snotty, self righteous Progressive to lecture you that Venezuela didn't do it right and that you have no idea what Socialism is because it's magical knowledge that only a beret sporting Che fan can ever fathom. Peasant.
Just saying...
Ya know its funny. This is pretty much what this piece is. Its snotty, self righteous propaganda anticipating retaliation. Now mind you we in this country just had a housing debacle caused by much the same thing in Venezuela. That would be non market central planning where decision makers do not make an actual product. Socialism is indeed a reaction , a non specific " -ism" to crony capitalism which is a market facade to a da guberment supported cartel. However when socialisms "socializes" non products of human labor , well its a lot less "socialistic" in the Venezuelan sense or crony capitalist. Both capitalism and socialism can be used as a masquerade. So anyone suggesting they are not doing it right would be correct.
Funny thing is with say privatized banking for example we still have da guberment over site, however with one little difference in that lots of private wealth can be made these with puppets in office. So it is a publicly created asset, with private profits. Banking isn't exactly a product of manufacture, but a regulated set of rules. Rules changes that make insiders rich isn't new technology for example. And since we do have other public assets like beaches, the state of Hawaii is quite socialist to make public assets public. After all beaches are access rights, not products of labor.
So I hardly see Venezuela as a socialist country when it should only remunerate easy access oil in taxes while leaving the capital private. Its crony central planning. A legitimate distinction on capitalism would be to allow private ownership, but preventing any monopoly accumulation of access rights. However by privatizing and supporting a monopoly, its more crony central planning.
That is how the US operated the Bureau of reclamation at one time. It developed the water resources and distributed a limited acreage based on water rights. That would be basic progressive era capitalism( which has social qualities when competition is not easily feasible) "Socialism" would only be distinguished by operating more capital than strictly necessary. That is to say da guberment should not be in the business of farming. They should only be in the business to make sure there is no water monopoly. That is what Venezuela failed to do. However so did we with regard to our banking system.
Get prepared for a snotty, self righteous Progressive to lecture you that Venezuela didn't do it right and that you have no idea what Socialism is because it's magical knowledge that only a beret sporting Che fan can ever fathom. Peasant.
Just saying...
Exactly! They are running out of food, medicine, diapers, and milk as we write this. But oooh the progress. The problem is many don't know their history and are delusional about what socialism is really about. They don't want to live in Cuba or the likes of but well having it here would be so lovely.
The reason America has done so well, can help other countries, many can donate and do well is capitalism. Is it perfect no, but personal responsibility, ingenuity, work, pride, with capitalism, and small business being the back bone of communities is what made it. Not everyone couch surfing at 40!
As Margaret Thatcher once said " The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money."
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Exactly! They are running out of food, medicine, diapers, and milk as we write this. But oooh the progress. The problem is many don't know their history and are delusional about with socialism is really about. They don't want to live in Cuba or the likes of but well having it here would be so lovely.
The reason America has done so well, can help other countries, many can donate and do well is capitalism. Is it perfect no, but personal responsibility, ingenuity, work, pride, and capitalism, small business being the back bone of communities is what made it. Not everyone couch surfing at 40!
As Margaret Thatcher once said " The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money."
Nobody looks to these countries as a reference for the United States to aspire to, despite what Foxnews says. I know it's an awfully easy talking point to make you feel right, but it's still wrong.
And as far as Margaret Thatcher is concerned, I'll put more weight into what a Brit has to say about her than you.
Nobody looks to these countries as a reference for the United States to aspire to, despite what Foxnews says. I know it's an awfully easy talking point to make you feel right, but it's still wrong.
And as far as Margaret Thatcher is concerned, I'll put more weight into what a Brit has to say about her than you.
[quote=Cheesesteak Cravings;43107558]Because I have family here. Are you happy with the status quo?[/quote
No, and I certainly don't want it to get worse, or be like Greece, Cuba, or Venezuela any time soon. But looks like some will push for that no matter what the consequences. I do hope things get better for all our sakes, your family and mine. Best wishes to you, even if we don't see eye to eye.
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