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Old 05-10-2016, 07:02 PM
 
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I would say a lot of people are suspicious of this market as compared to the late 90s when everyone loved the market.

A lot of people have been suspicious since 2008. They missed the climb in the DJIA from 6000 something to 17,000 something. That might be why some hate this bull market and others of us have been more than happy with it.
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Old 05-10-2016, 07:27 PM
 
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A lot of people have been suspicious since 2008. They missed the climb in the DJIA from 6000 something to 17,000 something. That might be why some hate this bull market and others of us have been more than happy with it.
If it weren't being propped up by the Fed, low interest rates, and stupid stuff like quantitative easing, the DJIA would be in the crapper.

Those holding stock right now are in for a world of hurt if the day of reckoning ever does come.

It probably won't though. Wall St. and the Fed will continue to fatten up the pockets of the rich at the expense of those in this country that actually produce.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:30 PM
 
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If it weren't being propped up by the Fed, low interest rates, and stupid stuff like quantitative easing, the DJIA would be in the crapper.

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Don't tell me you are another one of those who has been waiting for the other shoe to fall since 2008? That is getting more than a bit old after all these years. It is past time to realize you were wrong and just move forward.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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I would say a lot of people are suspicious of this market as compared to the late 90s when everyone loved the market.
Well, not everyone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrational_exuberance
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Dothan AL
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Yes, it is the most hated Bull Market in history. Becuase it is not a Bull Market, it is a Bear Market being disguised by the Fed stealing money from the future to make it look like a Bull Market. We hate this Bull Market (it's dressed up as a BULL) because it is NOT a Bull Market.
We cross-dressing Bears are pretending to be Bulls and out to get you!
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:40 PM
 
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If it weren't being propped up by the Fed, low interest rates, and stupid stuff like quantitative easing, the DJIA would be in the crapper.
The Stock Market is a reflection of the concensus view of the health of the economy going forward as measured by risk adjusted discounted cash flow and risk adjusted discounted earnings.

Thankfully, our government (and most every government in Europe) intervened to prevent our financial system from collapsing which would have thrown the world into a depression the likes of which have not been seen since the Dark Ages.


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Wall St. and the Fed will continue to fatten up the pockets of the rich at the expense of those in this country that actually produce.
Not a word in the above sentence makes actual, you know, sense.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Dothan AL
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A lot of people have been suspicious since 2008. They missed the climb in the DJIA from 6000 something to 17,000 something. That might be why some hate this bull market and others of us have been more than happy with it.
17,928 is closer to 18,000. It will go down and then up again, then down some over the late summer, would be my guess?
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:41 PM
 
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A lot of people have been suspicious since 2008. They missed the climb in the DJIA from 6000 something to 17,000 something. That might be why some hate this bull market and others of us have been more than happy with it.
True Capitalists hate this phony Bull Market, Anti-Capitalists love this phony Bull Market. The FED needed to begin raising interest rates in 2001, when the Business Cycle ended. The Business Cycle IS the Bull Market. Everything after the Bull Market ends is hocus-pocus created by a selfish money elite protecting the status quo and their own power. 2001 was the beginning of a Bear Market. How did the FED trick us? They stole money from our unborn grandchildren so we would not have to go hungry (as in 1929-1947). But the devil is going to present a bill and we all are going to pay for this debt orgy and perversion of capitalism + common sense.
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Old 05-10-2016, 11:14 PM
 
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If it weren't being propped up by the Fed, low interest rates, and stupid stuff like quantitative easing, the DJIA would be in the crapper.

Those holding stock right now are in for a world of hurt if the day of reckoning ever does come.
Sadly most investors today are on autopilot dumping investment funds into routine and predominantly bad mutual funds. This hasn't abated since the last downturn.

One should look at the market as a tide. There is a time to get in, usually at the bottom, and a time to get out usually at the top somewhere around 4-7 years. To deny the business cycle is to believe you are not in a capitalist system or to be as blissfully ignorant as a weatherman who doesn't believe winter will ever come again. You better watch out even if the Fed keeps trying to delay a downturn by perverting the free economy.
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:06 AM
 
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trying to capture just the righ tpart of the business cycle has lost more money for investors time and time agin then just staying put and riding the cycles through .

you can tell you are not an investor just by thinking that can be done easily and successfully by most investors .
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