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Tipping should be done away with completely and servers should be paid standard wages. I was just in Europe where there is a VAT and regular wages built into restaurant prices, and the prices were only a matter of cents more than what we pay here.
I've said it many times before, the American tipping system is RIDICULOUS! There is no sense whatsoever to who gets tips (server, massage therapist, taxi driver, valet guy) and who doesn't (phlebotomist, bus driver, mailman, grocery store clerk).
Studies have shown that the amount of tips are given on completely unfair (and ILLEGAL) standards such as race and beauty, not on quality of service.
There are many, many jobs where people don't earn much money. Should we just hand every single one we encounter throughout the day a few bucks?
Now don't start flaming me for being cheap. I do tip when expected, and I tip well, as high as 50% for excellent service (that's rare. Generally 20-25%) I swear to god I would rather pay twice as much for a meal than have our country continue with its tipping customs. It feels like arbitrary charity to me: "I make more money than you, and you are in a job that someone deemed is worthy of tips, so I get to sprinkle you with an extra 20 bucks to help you pay your bills."
People like me, who do tip well, are keeping menu prices low for the cheapskates who barely tip or don't tip at all. Can you fathom it working that way at the grocery store?? Some people toss in an extra 50 bucks on their $200 of groceries, because the store's workers make less than minimum wage? But it's optional, so some shoppers don't tip at all, and they love that the tippers help keep prices low!! Stupid stupid stupid.
Either EVERY person who makes less money than I make should be getting tips from me as I go through my day, or EVERY person should be paid by his/her EMPLOYER whatever the market deems reasonable.
Hmmm, restaurant owners ripping of staff and passing the buck to the customers to pay their salary. That the restaurant made enough that night to blows $10,000 that night is "totally irrelevant". That reminds of of ..that... b....bailout thing.
I will continue to tip as I always have. The last thing I'm worried about is overpaying a hard-working server. They earn those tips!
But please help me understand why certain low-paid employees are deserving of tips while others are not. And it's not just because servers make less than minimum wage, because with tips, they end up making more than most other low-paid workers. What about those who truly make merely minimum wage? Why shouldn't people who care about these hard-working, low-paid employees, be tipping every single one we encounter throughout the day?
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Originally Posted by BizrulesSD
Anyone have thoughts on if tipping practices (15-20% for the sake of this conversation) should change based on min wage increases. In many west coast cities (SD, Seattle, SF, etc) the min wage is increasing to 15 dollars per hour by 2020. At that point, a full time server would earn 30K before any tips are accounted for.
Are you planning on adjusting your tipping percentage as min wage goes up?
That depends on whether or not it goes up here (Georgia).
Right now, minimum sage for tipped employees is $2.13/hour in Georgia. I tend to tip well for service rendered because even someone making 2-3 times that is making crap wages.
no they are still legally required to make the federal minimum wage, if they aren't tipped enough, the owners have to fill the gap
All those tip workers who quote $3/hr is doing so to mislead the public or they don't understand their own pay stubs.
if you don't want to tip, the owners will still pay them $7.25/8.25 or whatever it is set to where they operate. that's why the tipping culture is pushed, if the owners get someone else to pay their workers, they don't have to. If people stopped tipping, they would have to pay the normal minimum wage.
so don't feel bad about not leaving a tip, they still get the minimum wage like all the other minimum wage workers. If you happen to like the service, tip, but realize that when you do, the bosses just count that as part of their paycheck
Well said!!
Tipping is a gratuity. NOT a demand.
Studies show that servers are not providing BETTER or even Higher levels of service based on tipping.
This social shaming of tipping without understanding that its a Choice, not a demand.
The boss that shows up in his BMW or jaquar is not at all against tipping...I'm sure. Subsidizing ...hmmmph.
Why? What does the cost of the meal have to do with it?
Tables turn over slower and I have found they have fewer tables per server. As a result, the quality of service goes up and I want to be fair and respect that.
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