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Old 11-16-2016, 08:28 AM
 
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Saying dumb things is easy. Actually doing them is harder. There is much time yet in which the markets may react either favorably or adversely to Mr. Trump.
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Old 11-16-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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Can anyone explain why the Market hasn't imploded like so many had predicted?
Because the market often does just the opposite of what people are thinking is going to happen. It's a trick of psychology.

History simply repeats.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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"The market, or markets, are integral to American and foreign wealth--and power. That concentrated power is is heavily influencing public policy at all levels of government. I don't think for a minute that this large and unbelievably complex economy is reliant on Trump's actions, nor any other politician for that matter. Money rules the marketplace, and by most accounts, a large portion of our government. This entire election was immersed in the doubt of government as a thing in control of itself.

Trump posturing as an outlier only fooled those who want to believe such a person can actually be a party president, the Republican's nomination of Trump was acknowledged by most as the sign of party inclusion, strings and all. Trump will be facing the largest cabal of power ever assembled, and he will bend to their will--or as history has shown, he will be dispatched to a life in political obscurity--or worse..
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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My fear is that there is a pump and dump scheme going on behind close doors right now. I fear the banking cartel and Wall street are inflating things as the stock market climbs to its highest levels ever. Then just after Christmas (December 28Th) the retail sector will claim the worst holiday spending ever and announce major retail closings and use that as their "excuse" to dump the entire financial bomb after having safely removing their interests and allowing the average person to lose everything.

Then this huge crash will happen just before Trump enters office and like Obama his fist year in office will be dealing with an even larger financial crisis than Obama ever saw. Trump is the type to let the big banks fail even at the peril of the entire US economy and if so I'll be behind him. I'd rather see a total collapse than continuing like we are. If there is a civil war or riots and killings them maybe we can cull the herd of these SJW and liberals or those who survive maybe reality will finally hit them hard enough to wake them up.
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Old 11-16-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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The VIX had also risen to the mid-20's. The market was ripe for a pop that would push the VIX back down to 15 or below. All kinds of articles noting the 9 days of consecutive rise in the VIX were starting to appear.
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Old 11-16-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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...because the Obama Administration hired intelligent people to craft economic policy. As a result, the past 8 years have yielded tremendous financial gains (particularly for those in the upper-income brackets). That said, globalist policy really does nothing in terms of advancing the condition of the low-wage workers.
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Old 11-17-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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Can anyone explain why the Market hasn't imploded like so many had predicted?

Warren Buffet
"Over the last couple of years, Warren Buffett’s holding company, Berkshire Hathaway, has been dumping its exposure to American stocks that rely on consumer spending."

Profit Confidential

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So, why hasn't it dropped like a Rock after the election?

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The market will always implode, sooner or later, and will always skyrocket, sooner or later.

People have been predicting for some time that the bubble in the market will burst, since it's been in a bubble for years. All this time, through all the predictions, it hasn't. Yet. But it will. You can take that to the bank. Then it will skyrocket in the future. You can also take that to the bank.

I never read anyone predicting the market would implode after the election, regardless who won. Quite the opposite. The market was languishing and volatile before the election, as usual, because of the uncertainty. Now that the election has passed, it is once again on track to do whatever it was doing before the uncertainty...only which stocks are doing well and not so well have changed because of the change in policies of the incoming administration.
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Old 11-17-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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Bubble = market is higher than it was at some previous point in time.
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Old 11-17-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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The market will always implode, sooner or later, and will always skyrocket, sooner or later.

People have been predicting for some time that the bubble in the market will burst, since it's been in a bubble for years. All this time, through all the predictions, it hasn't. Yet. But it will. You can take that to the bank. Then it will skyrocket in the future. You can also take that to the bank.

I never read anyone predicting the market would implode after the election, regardless who won. Quite the opposite. The market was languishing and volatile before the election, as usual, because of the uncertainty. Now that the election has passed, it is once again on track to do whatever it was doing before the uncertainty...only which stocks are doing well and not so well have changed because of the change in policies of the incoming administration.
It's clearly a bubble of epic proportions when it has to be so intensely managed.

You never know when the monetary authorities launch a new purchase program like this morning's news from Japan. I've lost count this year on how many times central banks in Europe and Japan have either cut rates or announced new or increased purchases of different assets. It no longer takes a 20% decline (2010 or 2012) to do something. Even a minor 10% decline brought out one of the Fedheads to threaten another QE or a reversal of a measly 25bp increase.
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Old 11-17-2016, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Centennial, CO
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It's already been a market recession for almost a year and half. Just look at the graphs. Flat S&P, Dow, & Nasdaq over that time. I don't think we ever got a real crash because of low interest rates and positive fundamental demographic & other factors helped counteract forces that might have caused a real crash. The worst damage has been done (Brexit, election, China fears, EU declines) and we weathered it. I actually think we are due for another rally and we are seeing the beginning of it.
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