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Old 03-10-2017, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Olympus Mons, Mars
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Seems like we have been in a secular bull market forever.. stock market has hit astronomical highs, unemployment is low, credit is super cheap, home prices have skyrocketed to the stars and people now have home equity that they are either eyeing or have already leveraged, people are having a good ole time.

How long will this party last?
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Old 03-10-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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stock market has hit astronomical highs, unemployment is low, credit is super cheap,
home prices have skyrocketed to the stars and people now have home equity...
It sure does all seem to be that way... huh?

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How long will this party last?
Until the air in one of those several balloons goes "pop".
Last time is was the securitized liar loan mortgages.
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Old 03-10-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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You keep lamenting the party and you wont get the invite to the next one
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Old 03-10-2017, 06:07 PM
 
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In before C2BP shows up declaring this a false recovery and makes the usual speech about debt.
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Old 03-10-2017, 06:47 PM
 
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Unless Congress agrees to raise federal debt limit this DEBT ORGY or PARTY is ending in just few days......on March 15th.

Could our phony economy collapse? Yes. I'm not sure why the FED is so eager to raise rates NOW -after waiting for 15 years to do it. I think there may be other issues (political?) that the FED is considering now. A recession now would take the wind out of the new administration? Of course, Trump is not going to take FED manipulation and sabotage quietly.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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"Twice as long as half."
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Old 03-11-2017, 02:33 AM
 
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signs in the economy and leading indicators are behaving like this is the early stages of a typical recovery . it just took us 8 years to get here .

the party may not be ending so fast .

on one hand rising rates are a sign data and the economy are improving , but if things slide back the fed will do more q/e's and maybe zirps so I wouldn't count this party over .

you likely will have trump and the fed backstopping things .

anyone who thinks they can predict this stuff and outcomes is just believing their own bull .
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Old 03-11-2017, 05:37 AM
 
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Often it is not apparent until it is over... you only know what you know holds true from many...
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Old 03-11-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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Seems like we have been in a secular bull market forever.. stock market has hit astronomical highs, unemployment is low, credit is super cheap, home prices have skyrocketed to the stars and people now have home equity that they are either eyeing or have already leveraged, people are having a good ole time.

How long will this party last?
You are on the right track. There are something else to keep in mind in the financial markets such as: you don't want to be the last one out; selling causes more selling.

A bear market is often swift and devastating and can wipe out years of gains in a few weeks. Now it might be the time to be a contrarian.

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Old 03-11-2017, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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People have been anticipating the end for years and missing out on all sorts of gains.

I've given up worrying about market cycles and instead I invest what makes sense given my financial situation.
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