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Old 03-27-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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Because shareholders are the devil!! Capitalist system is the devil too ONE word.. GREED.
Capitalist systems are also very efficient... capital flows in search of return.

Even in Capitalist Systems you will find Not for Profit and Religious Based Institutions..

Other systems do exist so options exists for those so inclined.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:02 AM
 
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Capitalist systems are also very efficient... capital flows in search of return.

Even in Capitalist Systems you will find Not for Profit and Religious Based Institutions..

Other systems do exist so options exists for those so inclined.
I get it why it exist, but take a look at what happen to the railroad companies. Capitalist got too big and had to break up. Similar to ATT back in the 80s, but look at them now. Still a monopoly as they was before if not bigger than before. How did FCC and regulators let them buy out telecoms, Tv services? Went from a single land line company to worlds biggest Media producer and distributor.

You have the right to make a profit for the company and RND for future investments, but when your just banking (hording)on your profit without spending it on wages, infrastructor, than your just a greedy company.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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Funny as they kept on saying "no inflation" in the past 8 years some goods and services almost doubled in price. One can only wonder about the price hikes when official infation hits.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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Capitalist systems are also very efficient... capital flows in search of return.

Even in Capitalist Systems you will find Not for Profit and Religious Based Institutions..

Other systems do exist so options exists for those so inclined.
Problems arise when maximization of returns leads to societal collapse demanding some sort of a repressive junta to deal with. That is the route US is taking.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:14 AM
 
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Funny as they kept on saying "no inflation" in the past 8 years some goods and services almost doubled in price. One can only wonder about the price hikes when official infation hits.
yep, can we say "Great Depression II"
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:23 AM
 
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I get it why it exist, but take a look at what happen to the railroad companies. Capitalist got too big and had to break up. Similar to ATT back in the 80s, but look at them now. Still a monopoly as they was before if not bigger than before. How did FCC and regulators let them buy out telecoms, Tv services? Went from a single land line company to worlds biggest Media producer and distributor.

You have the right to make a profit for the company and RND for future investments, but when your just banking (hording)on your profit without spending it on wages, infrastructor, than your just a greedy company.
These companies were granted monopoly status...

The push to ditch landlines is because they are still highly regulated where as Internet is not.

Disney started as an illustrator and cartoon pioneer... now look at the Disney holdings.

To be fair... it still happens... who heard of Facebook, Ebay, Amazon a generation ago?

If it was all roses Friendster and My Space would still dominate.

Goverment also has a hand in things besides Railroads and Telecoms...

All of the community based stand alone Hospitals are getting gobbled up simply because their is strength in numbers as in too big to fail...

In my community no Hospital service or provided more charity care than the Sister's of Charity... they left California after being told they must provide "Family Planning Services"
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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These companies were granted monopoly status...

The push to ditch landlines is because they are still highly regulated where as Internet is not.

Disney started as an illustrator and cartoon pioneer... now look at the Disney holdings.

To be fair... it still happens... who heard of Facebook, Ebay, Amazon a generation ago?

If it was all roses Friendster and My Space would still dominate.

Goverment also has a hand in things besides Railroads and Telecoms...

All of the community based stand alone Hospitals are getting gobbled up simply because their is strength in numbers as in too big to fail...

In my community no Hospital service or provided more charity care than the Sister's of Charity... they left California after being told they must provide "Family Planning Services"

In my mind, YOUR NEVER to big to fail. Honestly you deserve to fail so others can succeed. When in doubt, buy'em out seems to be the motto. Most people in programming only care about that.. Get big enough to be a competition and hope they buy you out. But your never too big to fail. That is just a excuse from the rich to keep losing their money they have hidden.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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I don't like it either but it has proven a very effective strategy for American Business...

Look at the GM deal with the Federal Government???
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:46 AM
 
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I don't like it either but it has proven a very effective strategy for American Business...

Look at the GM deal with the Federal Government???
Effective for the rich business men/women to pad the pockets while laughing at us for getting away with it. Honestly our whole eco system needs a huge reset/overhaul. market needs to lower the debt ceiling, shares needs a lower cap, your company assets cant include 80% of the world market. O the list i can come up with but we know somebody will chime in and say its their business let them rape us, we vote with our money. Sorry to bust your bubble, but if your the only player in town, your vote is voided.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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Sorry if a CEO is banking 50mill a year and crys when he has to give up 2mill of his salary to increase the wages to offset inflation and COL to the people of the company is purely a ahole. No company CEO can justified a salary over %20 of the company assets income.
Interesting rant, but you didn't address the questions.
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