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Old 07-14-2017, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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So it's actually just tech stores that hold Black Friday sales, and they do it just as a way to dispose of outdated inventory?
He wanted an example, not a retail survey of the whole nation. It's not outdated inventory. It's intentionally ordered that way. November's Black Friday inventory is still on a boat somewhere in the Pacific. Technical gear is just easy to identify, because the specs are available somewhere. Shoes not so much.
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Old 07-15-2017, 01:05 AM
 
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So it's actually just tech stores that hold Black Friday sales, and they do it just as a way to dispose of outdated inventory?
Where does that outdated inventor come from. Stores today don't have a lot of outdated inventory to sell. They buy extra goods for sale on Black Friday.

The more you buy on an order wholesale, the better price you get. As they expect to move a lot of goods on the period around black Friday, the order extra and buy enough to get price breaks.

Example: Years ago I sold furniture in one of the highest quality department stores. Recliners are a big seller at Christmas. We had 4 stores. We were offered a whole rail road car of one of the best companies in the business recliners, with factory select fabric of the top 3 grades. Fabric they did not have enough to keep their line. They made them at a time they had not enough orders to keep employees working. Normal cost $220, wholesale including shipping $110. We got that carload at $40 and $4 shipping. Stored till Christmas and sold out in 10 days. That is a good example of the big retailers able to have special prices. You buy in large volume special items, to get a good price so you can sell cheap.
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Old 07-15-2017, 03:17 AM
 
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the company i worked for mass produced our water pump castings in china in one of the most modern cnc factories in the world .

the quality and efficiency was superb . mass produced and quality have little to do with each other .
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:29 AM
 
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...mass produced and quality have little to do with each other.
Quite so, but the persistence of hand-me-down myth and superstition in a population conditioned to it can lead many people to remain in the thrall of some bygone era.
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:31 AM
 
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.... . mass produced and quality have little to do with each other .
I think there is typically a direct relationship. Mass production and appropriate, consistent processes are the steps to achieve consistent quality.
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Old 07-15-2017, 05:53 AM
 
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Toyota and Honda mass produce the highest quality cars in the world. They are better at it than other manufacturers. They've mastered the production process. There is no conflict between mass production and high quality. It just takes people who know what they're doing.
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Old 07-15-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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the best thing about cnc machines is people don't have to know what they are doing .

being in the electrical business do you know , years ago you could never buy a cover to an explosion proof electrical box because the machining process had to have such tight tolerances that depending who machined it you couldn't always duplicate the original .

the gap between the box and cover has to be exact in the thousands of an inch .

today just about any cover can be ordered and replaced because the tolerances from box to box are that exact .
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:36 AM
 
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Capitalism has made us lazy. We simply assume that we get what we pay for, and assume things are higher quality. "The market has already done the work for us"...

The only solution is total consumer knowledge and awareness of the products they're using.

When it comes to food, a "harvested/produced on" date would be nice first step.
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Brawndo-Thirst-Mutilator-Nation
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Walmart has its problems, but overall it is a pretty decent store compared to many other overpriced, dirty businesses.

May biggest gripe with Walmart is not the inventory, cleanliness or prices.......but going into most Walmarts is like a freakshow, oh-fricken-my, the customers and employees alike.

A local Grocery Outlet opened about a year or so ago where I live. The store was so nice, clean and the employees were so nice and friendly. That has all dissapeared.....now you have a dirty, unmaintained store with hostile employees that glare at you upon entering and shopping in the store. And this is the destiny of most businesses.
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Old 07-15-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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May biggest gripe with Walmart is not the inventory, cleanliness or prices.......but going into most Walmarts is like a freakshow, oh-fricken-my, the customers and employees alike.
Well, I try to look at it a different way. WM is giving some people a chance who would never be hired at any other business. And I think that's a good thing.
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