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Old 10-03-2017, 08:52 PM
Status: "Living the good retired life." (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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Make houses 1 million dollars and they'll never be self sufficient.
Move out of the Bay area and housing is much more affordable. Move one state over and houses are a fraction of what they are in the Bay area. If living in the Bay area is that important to you, then don't complain about the price of housing. It's simply a function of supply and demand.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:02 PM
 
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Move out of the Bay area and housing is much more affordable. Move one state over and houses are a fraction of what they are in the Bay area. If living in the Bay area is that important to you, then don't complain about the price of housing. It's simply a function of supply and demand.
What about the millions of undeveloped acres in the Bay Area?
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:07 AM
 
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The right mix is voluntary charity. When government takes by force from those who produce and gives it to those who don't, no one is raised up. Quite the opposite, those who produce are lowered. Those who believe socialism is the answer to all our societal problems explain away its failure by saying the right people haven't been in charge. They totally ignore human nature and how too many people just want to suckle at the government teat.
Define "produce". What if society made up solely of the producers like Trump? Capitalist nirvana? It is not a matter of production it is a matter of control or resources. Within capitalist patadigm the poor cannot "produce" to serve their modest needs directly. The poor must be utilized by the rich to get access to the resources. Racket works in the same way.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:15 PM
Status: "Living the good retired life." (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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What about the millions of undeveloped acres in the Bay Area?
They're obviously undeveloped for a reason and not available for housing expansion at this time. So your choice is to pay a mil point five or move to a lower COL area where houses are more affordable.
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Old 10-05-2017, 04:01 PM
 
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They're obviously undeveloped for a reason and not available for housing expansion at this time. So your choice is to pay a mil point five or move to a lower COL area where houses are more affordable.
You mean greed?
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Old 10-05-2017, 05:38 PM
Status: "Living the good retired life." (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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They're obviously undeveloped for a reason and not available for housing expansion at this time. So your choice is to pay a mil point five or move to a lower COL area where houses are more affordable.
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You mean greed?
There can be any number of reasons. But your reality is pay one point five mil or move. Those are your two choices right now if you want to own a home. The rest is irrelevant and no amount of bitching is going to change that.
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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IF you want to help the poor, donate to a competent agency with a proven track record. If you want to personally help, take time out to sit and talk with them and let them know they are important. That will do more for them than a free lunch on one day.
Or donate time: Become a Big Brother or Big Sister. Big Brothers Big Sisters of America. I give the program two thumbs up.
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Old 10-05-2017, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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I wouldn't call it nefarious but the crazy public policy we have is certainly contributing. A low income single woman in a red state doesn't qualify for Medicaid. If she gets knocked up, she does. And her kid qualifies for CHIP kid Medicaid. Bill Clinton signed the welfare reform act in 1996 where cash welfare has a 5 year lifetime cap. The "T" in TANF. That reform also said that there is no extra cash for popping out more kids when you're on public assistance. What it didn't fix is all the safety net goodies that go to a woman when she goes from low income single with no children to "pregnant" and then "single mother". It sends all the wrong messages. If she gets married, she doesn't get those goodies. It wouldn't be rational to get married.
Yes indeed. People respond to incentives.
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Old 10-05-2017, 08:15 PM
 
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There can be any number of reasons. But your reality is pay one point five mil or move. Those are your two choices right now if you want to own a home. The rest is irrelevant and no amount of bitching is going to change that.
"Bitching" brought us the civil rights movement. Good things can come from "bitching".
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Old 10-06-2017, 02:30 AM
 
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$1.5M might be the entry price point for a family needing a SFH with good schools and an easy commute to the City or Silicon Valley, but for a young single guy it is way high.

1100 square foot condo in the most expensive part of the city, $899,000, https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...72_rect/14_zm/

700 square foot, Telegraph Ave area of Berkeley, $400K, https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...03_rect/11_zm/
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