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Originally Posted by NickL28
Tax reform is going to pass. It already passed the house of representatives. Why wouldn't it pass? -
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Just my $.02--
Your comment shows that you don't understand how the election process actually occurs and differs between Congressional seats and Senate seats
1--Congressional districts are not always representative of the entire state which elects a Senatorial candidate-
Sometimes they reflect the average tendencies/attitudes very closely and sometimes they conflict--
As in Austin Tx in Texas--my home state--there are many more liberals voting in that area than conservatives although TX is a strong conservative state and did go for Trump...
BUT the GOP legislature in TX has made a point of trying to gerrymander certain districts to oust Democratic Congressional and state legislators to help raise number of GOP members in Congress and in the state legislature....There have been lawsuits which challenge the gerrymandering aspects of redistricting in Texas as well as other states--one has already made it all the way up the judicial food chain to the Supreme Court--
One reason McConnel and the GOP Congress refused to even entertain the possibility of seating Obama's recommendation and stalled until after the election when Trump nominated Gorsuch--and when McConnell also said they would do the same thing (stall) if Clinton was elected---says to have a conservative tilt to the Court for cases like gerrymandering...
Wisconsin is another state where the balance of registered Democratic and Republican voters skews Democratic but the voting results in past election cycles have allowed Republicans/GOP to secure a majority in the state legislature as well as elect GOP Congress reps--an outsized proportion of GOP elected when more Democratic votes were cast over all in the state--
That is unfair distribution at work--gerrymandering in a major way...
2--Senators know they have to be elected by a MAJORITY within their state--they can't count on the fewer numbers within a special carved-out district like a Congressional candidate can...
3--Making voters angry is one way to ensure they show up to vote
Check the last election in North Carolina and other states where Democrats seemed to pull upsets because voters mobilized to secure races in certain unexpected areas...OK being one of them...
4--as others have pointed out there is a much finer balance in the Senate to require a passing vote
GOP lost the health care bill in the Senate because of the refusal to compromise within their own party and because they tried to strong arm their own party members...
And because Democrates knew a pig when they saw one
5--the longer this bill is analyzed the more the dirty laundry will be hung out to dry
How many voters do you think have children with college debt they are trying to pay off and need that deduction---how many voters do you think have children or grand children going to college and getting a rebate from their tuition by working as grad assistants for a low stipend???
How many voters do you think have assets that fall far below 11 million dollars which is the current level the estate tax is set at????
California is a huge state--three million voters were the excess voting for Clinton over Trump but ALL Californians--Republican and Democrats--pay a state income tax as do those in New Jersey, New York, and some other states...
Do you think they are going to want to be double taxed???
Maybe the wealthy will see it as a trade off to get rid of the estate tax--
Maybe they have the option to buy house/rent apartment in non-income tax state and declare themselves a resident there even if they aren't living there more than 3 days a year---after all it worked for Steve Bannon with his Florida house...
No double tax on state income tax is one of the oldest, more respected deductions in income tax law...
So I think that idea is one that most residents of those states--and even CA has Congressional districts that are GOP filled--so they should pay attention to that being a stupid idea
The idea that any company is actually paying the highest Federal income tax is as dumb as the idea Trump and his family won't make out like gangbusters from this tax bill if enacted...
Everyone of his Cabinet members except Sec of Defense Mattis stands to reap a HUGE benefit from doing away with the estate tax....
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