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Old 12-10-2017, 04:44 AM
 
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I agree the numbers may be higher, but have not seen anything out of committee & the 5 & 12 are actual published. And you won't have to pay the higher balance, you can pay the balance in installments through an 8 year period, so the full amount will not be coming back immediately and will be taxed the FIRST time in the parent company HQ.

They are for sure going to maximize the corporations position, share buybacks & debt refinancing will long term benefit the company, but does nothing for shareholders or employee, thus the "boost' to the economy fails, which in this exercise was the guise for giving the corporations the tax relief and the repatriation exception.
Huh? Itís so clear to me that you have no clue.
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Old 12-10-2017, 07:34 AM
 
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Huh? Itís so clear to me that you have no clue.
Yeah if they don't realize that share buyback and debt reduction usually help shareholder value.
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Old 12-10-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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The profit shifting scheme is very similar to transfer pricing which carmakers used to avoid US taxes.

Here is a description of one variation
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Old 12-11-2017, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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We should totally eliminate all corporate income taxes. Just zero them out. Afterall, corporations don't bear the burden of the corporate income tax; people do. 100% of the burden of the corporate income tax is borne by a combination of customers in the form of higher prices, employees in the form of lower total compensation (and fewer employees), and owners in the form of lower profits.

Only people bear the burden.

So, if we totally eliminate all corporate income taxes, 100% of the benefit will flow to people: customers in the form of lower prices, employees in the form of higher total compensation (and more employees), and owners in the form of higher profits.

Then, just raise income taxes on people, as few people move to another country because of marginal tax rates. Make the personal income tax as progressive as you like to raise enough $$$ to pay for government services.
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Old 12-11-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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We should totally eliminate all corporate income taxes. Just zero them out. Afterall, corporations don't bear the burden of the corporate income tax; people do. 100% of the burden of the corporate income tax is borne by a combination of customers in the form of higher prices, employees in the form of lower total compensation (and fewer employees), and owners in the form of lower profits.

Only people bear the burden.

So, if we totally eliminate all corporate income taxes, 100% of the benefit will flow to people: customers in the form of lower prices, employees in the form of higher total compensation (and more employees), and owners in the form of higher profits.

Then, just raise income taxes on people, as few people move to another country because of marginal tax rates. Make the personal income tax as progressive as you like to raise enough $$$ to pay for government services.
You post this nonsense over and over in tax threads. It’s so clear someone has no idea what they’re talking about when they propose ridiculously simple solutions to complex programs.

https://www.ctj.org/fact-sheet-why-w...te-income-tax/
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Old 12-11-2017, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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If nonsense is repeated often enough, some people will come to believe it. This is one of the guiding principles of both FOX News and Madison Avenue.
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Huh? It’s so clear to me that you have no clue.
What is clear is that you don't know what's even in the bill or how to read it. Here's a gift for you:

https://www.amazon.com/Reading-Compr...7N8FAWBK0E3D7G
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:23 AM
 
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what is clear is that you don't know what's even in the bill or how to read it. Here's a gift for you:

https://www.amazon.com/reading-compr...7n8fawbk0e3d7g
tldr
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Old 12-16-2017, 07:15 AM
 
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If nonsense is repeated often enough, some people will come to believe it. .
So true. Mere denial has the ability to change the truth. We see it almost every day.

"I did not do that." Voila. "That" never happened.
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Old 12-16-2017, 05:40 PM
 
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We should totally eliminate all corporate income taxes. Just zero them out. Afterall, corporations don't bear the burden of the corporate income tax; people do. 100% of the burden of the corporate income tax is borne by a combination of customers in the form of higher prices, employees in the form of lower total compensation (and fewer employees), and owners in the form of lower profits.

Only people bear the burden.

So, if we totally eliminate all corporate income taxes, 100% of the benefit will flow to people: customers in the form of lower prices, employees in the form of higher total compensation (and more employees), and owners in the form of higher profits.

Then, just raise income taxes on people, as few people move to another country because of marginal tax rates. Make the personal income tax as progressive as you like to raise enough $$$ to pay for government services.
This post has valid points as people get income from companies and the government consistently taxes on income. So why not make it easier and just tax on personal income.
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