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Old 01-27-2018, 03:27 PM
 
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We were by no means wealthy. Dad got paid a little more than the assembly line paid, mom never worked after the war except sporadically, for about 6 months total. Nonetheless, they sent 4 of us through college including two through professional school (my professional school was financed largely by myself and those loans that I subsequently paid off, and, btw, that I used, in part, to buy me a brand new car). We did, however have summer jobs, sometimes a year round job. Those two bit jobs more than paid our tuition. That concept is completely out of the question today. $10,000 is way more than the $400 - 700 tuitions we paid as of about 1970. In our very middle class, nothing special neighborhood, going to college was not a question of money. It was a matter of scholarship in the preceding 12 years, and the motivation which was 100% the product of that household's values. Poquito "genes," maybe. But nothing more.


Colleges have become a business, not to mention, a DC-based, politically-driven racket, and that's the problem. Furthermore, absolutely no transparency there even in the public state-supported, tax money funded universities. All anyone pays attention to are the f'ball teams - which, btw, function as a farm league for the mega-billion dollar NFL that, to my knowledge gives nothing back (but that's for another time).
If you have two years free as is offered here... you are half way there... I too worked all through High School and College...

Being able to commute to University makes a huge difference in cost.

Can never understand why going off to school and incurring large debt is seen as a right of passage

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/14/u...e-tuition.html

Don't overlook that many that received affordable college education earned the right through military service... it was a common thread through many I know... it was why Dad was the first in his family to earn his college degree.

Thing is the benefit is still there...
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Old 01-27-2018, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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In the overall budget, the coach's salaries would disappear in rounding. Sports teams bring in a huge amount of revenue in ticket sales, concessions, broadcast rights, gear sales, even parking.

And that should end, though we know it won't. It's all about money, and what college sports rakes in.

To hell with that, and sports scholarships, where recruiters grab idiots who can't even read their own HS diplomas, and who are only attending college to get picked up as pros--the MAJORITY don't even graduate. Get back to academics.

The OP's idea is silly. If young people want to see reasonable costs for higher education, let them protest at the universities, instead of asking others to foot the increasingly-exorbitant bill.

No one is entitled to a college education.
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Old 01-27-2018, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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...let them protest at the universities...
Well, as protests stopped being effective around 1972, I guess it will be okay if they pack a lunch and remember it's all just for fun.
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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And that should end, though we know it won't. It's all about money, and what college sports rakes in.

To hell with that, and sports scholarships, where recruiters grab idiots who can't even read their own HS diplomas, and who are only attending college to get picked up as pros--the MAJORITY don't even graduate. Get back to academics.

The OP's idea is silly. If young people want to see reasonable costs for higher education, let them protest at the universities, instead of asking others to foot the increasingly-exorbitant bill.

No one is entitled to a college education.
This information is false. Student athletes tend to graduate at higher rates than their peers. The money makers (men’s Division I basketball and football) are used to fund scholarships for the money losers (women’s sports and men’s everything else) and those scholarships often allow students to attend school who wouldn’t normally attend. Very few go on to professional sports and know they’ll only play in college. I have a cousin who got a Division I basketball scholarship and he always planned to go onto grad school. He just wants to play college basketball before moving on to the next phase of his life. I had a retired WNBA player in my grad school class, so even if you DO make it pro, there are very few who make enough money to be set for life.

FWIW, I am not athletic at all, but think that college sports do help many students who wouldn’t otherwise be able to attend college attend... and it doesn’t always stop at student athletes. Many schools often get money in their endowment because people have an affinity for their school based on the football team and returning for games. That value can’t be discounted if the donations help give students scholarships.
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