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Old 05-03-2018, 12:54 PM
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Not sure how a thread on how much income is required to be upper class got derailed into a discussion about cities and urban design in Romania, but here we are.

To stay on topic, it obviously depends greatly on context of where you are. The mayor making $70k per year in a small town in the midwest might be considered "upper class" by most people in said town and within the county in which he resides. He or she is probably pretty well known and is making more money than the vast majority of residents there, and probably lives in a decent house. Upper class in New York City is probably a million or more per year, and they've involved in philanthropic activities and probably have some decent influence, and may live in a nice penthouse on Park Avenue. Then there is a true global world class. People like Gates, Buffett, Koch Brothers, etc. who are known worldwide and exert serious political, social, and financial influence. I'd say they go beyond just "upper class" and would be considered the true "Elite", so maybe not relevant to this discussion.

Basically, the key part in "upper class" is "class". To me that means not just having money, but also a certain standing and influence within the greater community. Otherwise you can billions but if you are just shunning yourself from society on a private island somewhere then in my eyes you are just "person with a lot of money", but not necessarily "upper class".
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:46 PM
Location: The analog world
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What Americans refer to as "class" is a three-legged stool of property, power, and prestige. I don't believe any person or family qualifies as truly upper class without the full suite. As far as Donald Trump is concerned, he definitely has property; however he's struggling to retain power and prestige. This is why he issues so many executive orders. It's his shortcut to power because he doesn't actually have much in the way of personal influence. People don't like him! And at one time Trump may have been able to make a legitimate claim to prestige with his name plastered on buildings all over the world, but he's taken a hit with the presidency, which is revealing him to be a shallow, petty, and, frankly, obnoxious human being.
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