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Old 08-14-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Boston
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how do you give a tax cut to people that don't pay taxes?
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:10 PM
 
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If you have informed yourself about what is happening
99% of the time these words are spoken by someone who thinks "informed" means endlessly watching Youtube videos (with scary intro music) from channels that cater to their worldview.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Minnesovia
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99% of the time these words are spoken by someone who thinks "informed" means endlessly watching Youtube videos (with scary intro music) from channels that cater to their worldview.
No, I've read books about it. More importantly, just look at the evidence around you. It's basically staring you right in the face - it couldn't be more obvious.


If you deny it, well you're either lying or too ignorant/unintelligent to understand it, in my opinion.
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Old 08-17-2018, 06:08 AM
 
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99% of the time these words are spoken by someone who thinks "informed" means endlessly watching Youtube videos (with scary intro music) from channels that cater to their worldview.

Buttt it’s the truth man!! The establishment sold us out at Roswell. The powers that Be are only keeping us alive with the grid so our brains can be harvested when the alien mothership returns. They’ll do anything to make a dollar, or whatever the currency of the realm is under our new interstellar masters.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:33 PM
 
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Buttt it’s the truth man!! The establishment sold us out at Roswell. The powers that Be are only keeping us alive with the grid so our brains can be harvested when the alien mothership returns. They’ll do anything to make a dollar, or whatever the currency of the realm is under our new interstellar masters.
AH!
'To serve Man'....it's a cookbook!!!
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Old 08-17-2018, 03:38 PM
 
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Yes, people with income generating and/or appreciating assets tend to do better than people that blow their actively earned income on consumption and depreciating assets.
Unfortunately it is not that simple. These are criminals engaging in terrible acts in the name of greed. There is a reason we do not get the truth. Also, their safety net is we pay for their mistakes.
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Old 08-17-2018, 04:36 PM
 
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Unfortunately it is not that simple. These are criminals engaging in terrible acts in the name of greed. There is a reason we do not get the truth. Also, their safety net is we pay for their mistakes.
What criminal acts?

Which law is being broken?
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The 1% pay 25% of all federal taxes, while the bottom 50% pay NOTHING. But some dim wits try convince everyone that the rich are the evil one's stealing, when if fact it's the opposite.
Positive rep. The rich are demonized in this country and they're the ones responsible for job creation. It surely isn't the self-victimized government assistance underclass creating jobs.
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:28 PM
 
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So you think if a tree grows, and a man points to it and tells a man with a saw to cut it down, and he sells the timber, and gives 20% to the logger, it is the man who pointed to the tree who created the wealth.
Of course! If people walk by water, a lemon tree and has bags of sugar, and Joe Blow pays some schlepp $10 to make gallons of lemonade and sell it for him, then Mr Blow created the wealth because it took his vision, idea and finances to create a product someone wants, where as everyone else just moseyed on by everyday doing nothing.
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:34 PM
 
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Pointed to the tree?! I created my business. I created the business plan, I invested the startup money, I put in the many sleepless nights, stress, and completely unpaid years (the first 5 years I made no money, we were fortunate to break even years 4 and 5), and if one day I'm sipping a lemonade by the pool while other people "do the hard work" and I'm the one getting rich from their work, you are *FREAKING A* right that I deserve the fruits of the business, not them. They didn't do ANYTHING to deserve the wealth my business created. They have no business of their own, they don't create anything themselves like products, crops, whatever, they don't go out and face any amount of risk, they literally find a job that offers them pay they find acceptable and they perform their duties for the agreed upon pay. I wouldn't at all feel bad for any of them if they make $40,000 a year and I made $5 million a year and they worked ten times harder than I do now. If they want that level of success, they can go start their own successful business and EARN it.

The idea that you, as an EMPLOYEE, who doesn't have your own operation, is deserving of the wealth created by a business is an utter joke. You are worth whatever someone will pay you and not a dime more than that. Not one dime. The business owner who created the business DESERVES every penny he makes, no matter how much that is, because you can bet if he's getting super rich off that business, he's going to face an enormous amount of competition in that marketplace from other people looking to get in on the pie. It's not easy to start a business, and the vast majority of it is utter nonsense where you'd make way more money just being an employee. I've had years where if I worked at Taco Bell as the lowest possible employee only working 30 hours a week without benefits, I'd still have more to show for it than being a business owner.

So if one day, my hard work pays off and my business is immensely successful, I don't want some socialist scum telling me how much money I "deserve" for starting a thriving business. EVERY. PENNY. That's how much I deserve!
Couldn’t agree with you Moore and I am an employee on the other side.
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