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Old 06-14-2018, 11:12 AM
 
Location: midvalley Oregon and Eastside seattle area
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I think we need to rethink corn. Mathusian thinking has been surpassed with climate change
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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While I do oppose corn subsidies, the obesity issue could have been delt with through a law banning Hig Fructose Corn Syrup.
Not gonna help. Despite the hype there's little difference between HFCS, sugar, honey, and fruit juice. Its all in the marketing and the perception that natural is better.
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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Not gonna help. Despite the hype there's little difference between HFCS, sugar, honey, and fruit juice. Its all in the marketing and the perception that natural is better.

The biggest issue is overconsumption really rather than the type
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Not gonna help. Despite the hype there's little difference between HFCS, sugar, honey, and fruit juice. Its all in the marketing and the perception that natural is better.
There have been studies to the contrary on this.
Rats and High-Fructose Corn Syrup | In the Pipeline


I used to drink a lot of fruit juice with HFCS, and also was a severe candy addict. Every break at work I would be at the vending machines buying candy. I quit buying the HFCS and without even me realizing it, my cravings for candy gradually went away. I can't prove that it was the HFCS, but I'm convinced that it was.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:05 PM
 
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i dont beleive in subsidizing ethanol
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:09 PM
 
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Thatís quite a kernel of truth. Iím all ears on how to fix this.
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Old 06-16-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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i dont beleive in subsidizing ethanol
Some folks as stated just don't get it.

The subsidized corn is used for ethanol gasoline. Not some debate about food stamps or sugary drinks.

Large multinational companies are getting vast amounts of free money from the US taxpayer to manufacturer ethanol gasoline substitute.
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Old 06-16-2018, 02:46 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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While you guys go back and forth about farm subsidies you need to know the why of them starting.
Pro Hint:
The beginnings go back to Herbert Hoover and the beginning of the Great Depression and Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal.

https://grist.org/article/farm_bill2/

https://fee.org/articles/the-origin-...arm-subsidies/
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Old 06-16-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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While you guys go back and forth about farm subsidies you need to know
Not about subsidies to most farmers. For or against farm subsidies is for a different post.

Only subsidies for production of ethanol gasoline here. These are unique subsidies but as article below states - all mixed up with "farm" subsidies. Part of this has to do with corn.

"As a result, taxpayers have spent billions of dollars over the last 30 years subsidizing the production of corn ethanol, while at the same time creating unintended costs for consumers and the environment."

Link

I'm guessing here. But I don't think most folks even know what ethanol is nor where it comes from nor who is paying the subsidies for the production of ethanol gasoline.
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Old 06-16-2018, 09:24 PM
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Corn subsidies = crony enrichment.

Anything beyond this is just commentary.
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