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Old 08-03-2018, 01:42 PM
 
Location: southern california
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I know people that used to leave their RV in front of their house and use it on weekends to picnick at the park - now they live in that park in that RV
Somebody else owns that house
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Old 08-03-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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Many years ago, as an undergrad in college, I had a project that ran into the summer. The regular semester ended, the dorms closed, and I was relegated to living in my car - an older hatchback. The rear seat was removed, and the front folded down, for sleeping. With laundry serving as a mattress, it was tolerably comfortable. Cardboard cut-outs and associated decoration provided a modicum of privacy. This lasted for about a month.

Because I had spending-money, food wasn't a huge problem. But having no place to cook, I had to rely on raw foods (vegetables etc.) or fast-food. I had rudimentary cooking utensils, but no access to a stove. Showering was also a problem.

What the city could have done to help, was to provide a "guest" type of area, where customers could cook, take a shower, do laundry and so forth. Admission could be say $5, for a couple of hours. It is not a place to sleep, but a place for daily "household" chores.

And as others have said, free parking would be nice. My main worry wasn't crime, but parking tickets.
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Old 08-03-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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Don't help me...Really. I have lived out of my vehicle since 2012. I LOVE it. I can go where I want, not worry about someone breaking into my "Home" while at work. I admit, I pay nothing towards certain things that people with property do pay. But then I don't worry.


I make between $29K-$35K (With OT) so you can see. I'm doing good. In 9 months I should clear the $15K in debt I have and then get a new (To me) van
Thanks for sharing. That's great input for people who think everyone needs rescued.
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Old 08-03-2018, 03:08 PM
 
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Focus on the future and making sure Gen Z has adequate opportunities and are not falling into the rut. Apprenticeships and relocation to appropriate areas where employers in need exist is critical.

Like camps?
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Old 08-03-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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Don't help me...Really. I have lived out of my vehicle since 2012. I LOVE it. I can go where I want, not worry about someone breaking into my "Home" while at work. I admit, I pay nothing towards certain things that people with property do pay. But then I don't worry.

I even had a co-worker (Who I have told several times I'm happy) come to me about a program for people living in vehicles..."Look, Hon, how often have I said "I like living like this"?

She replied "Several times"

"Do you think I'm lying?"

"No, but you need.."

"I need you to stop trying to make me live like you do. To try and help me. I don't need it"

I make between $29K-$35K (With OT) so you can see. I'm doing good. In 9 months I should clear the $15K in debt I have and then get a new (To me) van

I love this post. I do think she thinks you are lying. All I can picture is her asking "but how can you be happy without a white picket fence?"
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Old 08-03-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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It seems to me, (in my limited knowledge) that a lot of our laws, whether on purpose or not, make it extremely difficult for people living close to the edge, regarding homelessness.


For example, we fine people if they try to feed homeless folks without a permit.


We make it illegal for restaurants to give away their day-old food.


We place occupancy restrictions on housing, etc.


I remember seeing something on TV about a mother and father and a small child or 2, living in ONE room, in an old Victorian home. That one room was all they could afford. They got kicked out for zoning restrictions.


I remember reading about a young guy, who works for google, and lives in one of those freight containers, on the parking lot. It's all he can afford. He showers and eats in Google headquarters.


Another story I read, a younger couple and a couple of kids were living in her parents garage. Not a fancy set up by any means, but they had a roof over their heads. They both worked at Google, in food service. Both of them made over minimum wage, but it wasn't enough to afford their own place.


And then San Francisco passes laws about living in garages.


It's like we want to ostracize the homeless, but at the same time, create more.
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Old 08-03-2018, 06:49 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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When poor people need help conservatives say let the market decide, keep government out of it. Then when the market solution is that poor people start living under bridges and in old RVs on public streets the conservatives say, “Hey, the government has to stop this!”.
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Old 08-03-2018, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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I've watched quite a few of her videos, and she seems to be doing ok living in her car and traveling cross country. As long they're able to support themselves without any help from the government, fine by me. My only concern is she has a lavish spending habits on designer clothes, cosmetics and stuff.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXV-LekBO8E

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Old 08-03-2018, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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I about starved to death in the '82 recession. I lived in a 14' travel trailer for 3 years. I went to work and nowhere else. I drank water and cooked cheap meals, while working 2 jobs. My entertainment budget was a library card and cheap magazine subscriptions. Then I bought a house and never looked back. I did what I had to do to meet my goals.
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Old 08-04-2018, 12:23 AM
 
Location: USA
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There are not enough high paying jobs for everyone. And you need one of those high paying jobs to be able to afford even the most basic accommodations in some places. In SF, you have skilled, software engineers living 4 to a 1-br apartment. A low wage service worker (whose jobs are just as important to society) have no chance.
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