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Old 09-01-2018, 02:37 AM
Location: Telecommutes from Northern AZ
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Originally Posted by Hulsker 1856 View Post
Correct. In the midst of the great recession.

But never during economic growth such as that of the last quarter. And under the second term of the previous President, there were numerous quarters when growth equaled or exceeded that of 2Q18.

So comparing the two is baseless.
Not so much about economic growth as it is about the budget deficit, which hasn't improved much.
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Old 09-01-2018, 03:07 AM
Location: VB
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Originally Posted by CaptainNJ View Post
that depends on the job and who the contractors have paid off for the work.

most of the work doesnt even need to be done. i wonder why trump didnt include the military in this. do we really need so many military personnel?
Even if he wanted to, Trump couldn't really do much about it. The military pay raise of 2.6% for 2019 -- the largest in nine years -- is in the National Defense Authorization Act, which passed both houses of Congress with veto-proof majorities. Congress has the last say on civilian pay as well (through other spending bills), though they may just accept the President's plan of a 0% increase.
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:45 PM
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Originally Posted by TMBGBlueCanary View Post
The problem is if the government doesn't have the employees to do the job, they hire contractors (who end up costing taxpayers more because they charge more). The more people vacate staff positions, the more we are going to rely on private contractors to get the work done.
this is so VERY true
the government doesn't have the employees to do the job, they hire contractors...rely on private contractors to get the work done

reduce the work load (Great idea!)
reduce the workforce (Great idea)

Just part of the 'master plan'... remember we are only 20 months into this bloodbath.
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:55 PM
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Pretty much every large organization in the public and private sectors hires a lot of contractors. At MCI Worldcom, they had a rule-of-thumb of 3 consultants for every employee. The employee would retain the technical knowledge of the systems, and the contractors were automatically laid off in one or two waves each year to prevent managers from keeping people on without justification. Since the date of separation was known in advance, some contractors would jump ship in advance and work somewhere before they could be hired back. Some would be offered full-time employment in lieu of the layoff.
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:58 PM
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by Thatsright19 View Post
If a federal employee thinks they’re worth more, they’re free to test the market and go get it.
Oh, they'll get it. The new Federal jobs are leaner than one might imagine. Cut them too far and....well, there's lots of examples of what happens in countries when people with Federal powers start getting less of their compensation from their paycheck and more from other areas.

I like a smaller government scope, but those workers should be paid, unless you truly want to put the full letter of the law in some flunky accountant's hands at the IRS to decide your fate.
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Old 09-01-2018, 01:45 PM
Location: Central IL
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Originally Posted by Electrician4you View Post
You do know he donates his paycheck away..........

...it's the least he can do considering how much more he's getting from the added business to all of his estabalishments based on Secret Service alone! And all he's saving from his family getting free airfaire in half a dozen different directions each weekend. He'd coming out well ahead.
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Old 09-01-2018, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hitpausebutton2 View Post

But still 1200 a year is not a tax cut.. its a insult to the working class. pff 1200.. should add extra zero to make a small dent on most working families.

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Old 09-02-2018, 12:46 AM
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I'm a public servant and I'm all for basing one's salary upon competence. I want the public sector to start demanding more from their public servants so maybe I wouldn't have to work with such losers and gravy-train riders. Nepotism is rampant (Indians only hire Indians, Asians only hire Asians, Libs only hire libs or other extremists, etc..) Corruption, nepotism and incompetence is worst than I ever imagined it to be. Taxpayers deserve so much more.

Yet these losers will end up promoting each other up the ladder until they are all set for life taking high-dollar pensions on the taxpayer dime while contributing little to nothing to the greater good.

Because of the corruption, there is NO OVERSIGHT of our state government, and we need someone who has the courage question the status quo because we're being used. Liberal governors consider state workers to be a whole big pool of likely liberal voters.

So I support President Trump. He's more in touch than people realize. I truly believe we need to cut the dead weight and start expecting more of those living on our tax dollars.


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Old 09-02-2018, 01:29 AM
Location: England
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Originally Posted by leastprime View Post
no Businessman would willing want to do business with DJT.
Nor would any US bank, obviously because of Trump's very poor business acumen, ergo no less than six corporate bankruptcies.
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:21 AM
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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The word is Trump is backpedaling.
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