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Old 10-12-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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It is a model that is spreading and could soon tern the need for predatory private corporations to 0.
How soon, six or seven thousand millennia from now?
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Ahhh yes. Sounds like paradise.

Meanwhile the OP talks about how the current system stifles freedom and individual rights of workers. Up is down and down is up.

Classic. This thread is a great reminder of why society needs to be educated enough to protect our republic lest it be swept into the dust bin of history if we allow madness like this thread to take root.
ahh, more propaganda and historical revisionism.

America isn't wealthy because of capitalism, but because of state control of development (pentagon spending creates most of the technological inventions along with university grants that are used to give our multinational corporations control over foriegn markets). Real capitalism was practiced in post colonial africa where foriegn companies monopolized resources for their own gain.

Now our system is falling apart as inequality and debt destroy the militaristic private model we have created for ourselves. Without the dollar being the global reserve currency, the model would soon fail.

Actual self sustaining societies based off of voluntary action have always been the most successful, from communes in Central Italy and Siberia, to the Catalonians during the Spanish civil war, to the free territories, etc.

Even today in America the only thing holding up dying communities that the state and private industry have decided should fail (mainly America's heartland) are being kept on life support by cooperatives that give workers a chance to control their own destiney: https://www.electric.coop/electric-c...ve-fact-sheet/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_union
Evergreen Cooperatives
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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How soon, six or seven thousand millennia from now?
The State and the Authoritarian capitalist who control the media will use a tsunami of propaganda to silence the libertarian socialist worker movement, but it exists everywhere.

In Mexico, Brazil, Central Europe, South East Asia, it's growing. One day the imperial American lead world will have to bow to the will of the free people and end this slave labor market they have formed for the benefit of elite structures.
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Any time someone says there’s only one way to do something, you know they’re about to spew a pitch not in your best interest. When the only way happens to be their way....well...
My way is general and the way of freedom. I support anarcho-syndicalism, some may be mutualist, collectivist, individual socialists, etc.

All are workable, our end goal though is to end the authoritarian privileges of private and state power in favor of personal cooperation and mutual agreement.
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:58 PM
 
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The State and the Authoritarian capitalist who control the media will use a tsunami of propaganda to silence the libertarian socialist worker movement, but it exists everywhere.

In Mexico, Brazil, Central Europe, South East Asia, it's growing. One day the imperial American lead world will have to bow to the will of the free people and end this slave labor market they have formed for the benefit of elite structures.
Wanna bet? My money is on you being wrong and corporate America continuing to be profitable. Where’s your money?
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Wanna bet? My money is on you being wrong and corporate America continuing to be profitable. Where’s your money?
I'm sure it'll be profitable for themselves, but the finite resources, over commercialization, and further restrictions on labor freedom will force a progressive change.

The corporations and the state have had a free reign on power for too long, there time is coming to an end.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:08 PM
 
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I'm sure it'll be profitable for themselves, but the finite resources, over commercialization, and further restrictions on labor freedom will force a progressive change.

The corporations and the state have had a free reign on power for too long, there time is coming to an end.
That’s meaningless gibberish.

So you either have no money (in which case you’re just trying to justify your lack of productivity) or are ashamed to admit that you’re invested in corporate America.

Which is it?
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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That’s meaningless gibberish.

So you either have no money (in which case you’re just trying to justify your lack of productivity) or are ashamed to admit that you’re invested in corporate America.

Which is it?
I'm fine, freedom is the goal, not more money for myself.

In fact, the end goal is a cashless society.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:36 PM
 
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ahh, more propaganda and historical revisionism.

America isn't wealthy because of capitalism, but because of state control of development (pentagon spending creates most of the technological inventions along with university grants that are used to give our multinational corporations control over foriegn markets). Real capitalism was practiced in post colonial africa where foriegn companies monopolized resources for their own gain.

Now our system is falling apart as inequality and debt destroy the militaristic private model we have created for ourselves. Without the dollar being the global reserve currency, the model would soon fail.

Actual self sustaining societies based off of voluntary action have always been the most successful, from communes in Central Italy and Siberia, to the Catalonians during the Spanish civil war, to the free territories, etc.

Even today in America the only thing holding up dying communities that the state and private industry have decided should fail (mainly America's heartland) are being kept on life support by cooperatives that give workers a chance to control their own destiney: https://www.electric.coop/electric-c...ve-fact-sheet/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_union
Evergreen Cooperatives
You’d have a point if the U.S wasn’t already the largest economy is the world decades before the pentagon was even a thought and before the usd replaced the pound.
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:39 PM
 
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I'm fine, freedom is the goal, not more money for myself.

In fact, the end goal is a cashless society.
That’s what I thought. Unproductive fraud. New Hampshire makes sense.

Move along people, nothing of substance to see here.
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