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Old Today, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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there is not a better model, anything you think is better is because you have a grass is greener envy. your life sucking in the US doesnt mean it would not suck less if you were born in another other country

if anyone else is better, its because they put effort into making it better, have you done your part yet?
Do you want true complete freedom without the threat of capitalism?

Anarchist-communism is the basis of human and animal interaction, state and corporate power need not exist.
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Old Today, 02:09 PM
 
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Anarchist-communism is the basis of human and animal interaction, state and corporate power need not exist.
So is early death... Without a state/corporate organization, people wouldn't be able to do anything more than live hand to mouth
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Old Today, 02:24 PM
 
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So is early death... Without a state/corporate organization, people wouldn't be able to do anything more than live hand to mouth
Do you know what a union or worker cooperative or a syndicate is?

Power can be distributed horizontally via worker control of the means of production.
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Old Today, 02:27 PM
 
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I'm in a union, there is as much segregation under a union, it's just different...

Keep thinking the grass is greener if you want, it is going to turn brown with how you approach things
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Old Today, 02:43 PM
 
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I'm in a union, there is as much segregation under a union, it's just different...

Keep thinking the grass is greener if you want, it is going to turn brown with how you approach things
Those aren’t unions, those are right wing corporate friendly bodies. A real union is like a worker cooperative.

Edit: Furthermore you haven’t acknowledged their are institutions of organization that don’t rely on authoritarian power.
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Old Today, 02:58 PM
 
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Edit: Furthermore you havenít acknowledged their are institutions of organization that donít rely on authoritarian power.
Yes... But they aren't better, that was the original quote, about capitalism
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Old Today, 03:01 PM
 
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Yes... But they aren't better, that was the original quote, about capitalism
No they are not, look at the CNT during the Spanish civil war, Kurdish territory in northern Syria, the Zapatistas, etc.

And personal the gift economy system is the most interlinked with human nature and direct democracy, Read Kropotkinís The Conquest of Bread.
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