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It's economics. We don't have the cost base and now we no longer have the supply chain. We still do make many things in the USA but major production - as in the garment industry, is never coming back to the US unless you can somehow reverse globalization, which is probably impossible and even if you did succeed it would not be a good idea because it would require raising many prices to the consumer.
There's still a garment industry in NYC and the Bay Area, at least. IDK about LA. But there's definitely still a garment industry.
How is this exploitation? Is there some arbitrary salary number where people that willingly agree to exchange their labor for are being exploited, and if so does it take into account cost of living?
It's called "cost of living" and "U.S. Federal Poverty Guidelines" and "inflation".. Stuff a person who is giving input to this subject should already know about..
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Since when does McDonald's "fire people to save on labor"???
They've been doing it for years go in a corporate or franchise store and ask a manager or supervisor or GM.. If you're going to try and shoot down someone's statement with brat'ish US PC culture style responses you might want to at least do a little research..
It's called "cost of living" and "U.S. Federal Poverty Guidelines" and "inflation".. Stuff a person who is giving input to this subject should already know about..
Cute non-answer.
We'll just assume you are incapable of supporting your argument and leave it at that.
It's called "cost of living" and "U.S. Federal Poverty Guidelines" and "inflation".. Stuff a person who is giving input to this subject should already know about..
They've been doing it for years go in a corporate or franchise store and ask a manager or supervisor or GM.. If you're going to try and shoot down someone's statement with brat'ish US PC culture style responses you might want to at least do a little research..
"If you're going to try and shoot down someone's statement with brat'ish US PC culture style responses you might want to at least do a little research." Maybe try taking your own advice?
Try as I might, I can't find any information on McDonald's retail layoffs or downsizing. They definitely have laid people off at the corporate level.
I don't think a high headcount is much of an issue in fast food. It's generally the opposite, according to the industry publications I've browsed. They just can't find people.
In areas where the min wage has been jacked up really high such as Seattle, they're threatening to switch to automated kiosks, but even there it's not clear they are reducing headcount so much as simply not hiring after the usual 3-6 month turnover.
Manufacturing jobs hit a trough in 2009 and have slowly climbed back. But manufacturing employment has accelerated in the past year, chiefly because the reduction in corporate taxes at the beginning of 2018 have made it cost effective to manufacture domestically for more companies.
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There's still a garment industry in NYC and the Bay Area, at least. IDK about LA. But there's definitely still a garment industry.
Nearly all of that is purchased from these USA hubs and sewn / made overseas.
A popular brand near me still makes (some of) their own fabric in automated USA facilities, but 100% of the assembly is done overseas.
There is no way to afford labor to run a garment factory in NYC and Bay Area.
Consider the Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and Myanmar as likely (other countries (Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines...especially China) are now too expensive)
There's still a garment industry in NYC and the Bay Area, at least. IDK about LA. But there's definitely still a garment industry.
Rurh4Truth, I was very familiar with NY city's garment center and I now often have reason to be in that area. What remains of yesterday's NYC garment industry is a shadow of what was.
I don't know where you shop for what. But I see lots of imported garments, shoes, sneakers, fresh and packaged food, tools, small and large appliances, electronics, and vehicles. I also see USA and foreign labeled vehicles that were assembled in the USA using substantial amounts of imported components.
USA's chronic annual trade deficits indicate that we are purchasing more products than we produce.
Annual trade deficits are ALWAYS net detrimental to their nations' GDP and drag upon their numbers of jobs.
USA's negative balance of international trade only indicate the net amount of foreign imports crowding USA products out of USA and foreign marketplaces.
We cannot estimate or in any manner account for our otherwise additional GDP that's lost due to trade deficits.
Trade balances actual effect upon its domestic production actually exceeds the net amount of the nation's foreign trade; (i.e. due to the nation's trade balance, the contributions to trade surplus nations' and the detriments to trade deficit nations' domestic production were actually greater than their annual balances of trade).
Refer to the paragraph entitled “trade Balances' effects upon a nation's GDP”
within https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_trade .
Regarding a remedy, refer to Wikipedia's "Import Certificates" article.
Is manufacturing in US making a comeback, if so where?
First you have to clarify (or re-define) just what US manufacturing IS today.
As to 'comebacks', does that means the dirty and dangerous and low skill labor intensive sort?
Then no. And regardless of what the deplorables need to believe is possible... that isn't changing.
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I have read in other forums it is, and in fact still lots of manufacturing never left.
Especially in the high tech sector.
First you have to clarify (or re-define) just what US manufacturing IS today.
As to 'comebacks', does that means the dirty and dangerous and low skill labor intensive sort?
Then no. And regardless of what the deplorables need to believe is possible... that isn't changing.
Someone needs to insult working class people. What a valuable contribution to the discussion.
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