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Old 12-20-2018, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Naples
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We tend to think about quality of life in the west, USA, Canada, and Europe. What about India, China, Africa? Their quality of life is generally not as good as ours. They live with hunger and disease. Even in the America's, there are pockets of misery, starvation, disease.



You are correct about the rat race. Happiness is not dependent on a great deal of money, often times it equates to another kind of misery, high blood pressure, tension, the constant striving to keep up with others who may have more. I don't know what the answer is, in fact, there may not be an answer. I feel very fortunate to have grown up when I did, in the mid 50's. I had a wonderful career in natural resources, kept my family fed and housed. I feel a lot more worried about millennial's. My daughter is in her early 30's and I see her and many of her generation struggling more then my generation. I sincerely hope things work out for them.
The only answer for every single soul on this planet may be try to make the best of whatever life throws their way. The world isnít fair, some are born in real third world poverty while others are born in wealth. What else can one do but try to make the best out of their current situation even though so much is out of their control?
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:40 PM
 
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US population figures are fake.

how do you think they get the numbers?
actually, 1,2,3, counting? well, no. they ask.
and the answers are taken as the truth.
i am guilty of this in terms of political
phone surveys. i respond as a 35
year-old. i wish as does my wife.
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Old 12-21-2018, 06:25 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Yeah America! Keep up the good work.
Now sort out how to focus that fewer baby thing on the cohort that most needs to practice it.
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Old 12-21-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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If that's the case we need to put more dollars into space exploration. This earth is being affected right now. Unending growth forever is going to kill us. It can't all be about economics. What about quality of life? The fastest growing countries are the poorest, with lot's of starving children. Is this a good thing? We need a different model. An ever expanding work force is unsustainable.
OMG! Finally someone said it! "What about quality of life?" When people are talking about how many mean spirited those of us who don't want unchecked illegal immigration are, they love to bring up how rich the United States is oh, how we can afford to take care of them, and how their numbers help us economically. (Taxes, bolster social security, keep produce costs down, etc.) But damn it, what about quality of life? I don't want to sit in 2 hour traffic to go 30 miles! I don't want four hour waits at the hospital emergency room! I don't want cities so congested, there's almost no aesthetic appeal! I don't want every tree in the state cut down to provide housing for this ridiculous overpopulation! I could go on and on, but it seems people, especially liberals, totally don't consider quality of life when they're deciding how much American citizens are able to bear when helping someone else!
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Old 12-21-2018, 05:11 PM
 
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This is good news. Population growth needs to slow as much as possible. 7+ billion on this planet is too much. We are affecting climate, using resources at an unsustainable rate, experiencing far too much starvation. We need more effective birth control in 3rd world countries.
None of this is a problem in the USA. Overpopulation is a problem in underdeveloped parts of Africa and Asia primarily
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Old 12-21-2018, 05:14 PM
 
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Government should figure something out in regards to daycare for pre-k children. Costs are out of control in that respect
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Old 12-22-2018, 04:27 AM
 
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It's heading to zero because the economy is going nowhere but down from here. Who's going to have children when the majority of new jobs are not even paying a living wage?
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Old 12-22-2018, 05:36 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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It's heading to zero because ...
It NEEDS to go to zero.
Then it needs to go negative too.

The only problem we have is that the least able aren't the ones cutting back.
THAT has to be fixed.
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Old 12-22-2018, 05:58 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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This is good news. Population growth needs to slow as much as possible. 7+ billion on this planet is too much. We are affecting climate, using resources at an unsustainable rate, experiencing far too much starvation. We need more effective birth control in 3rd world countries.

All those are myths-- note that 50% of all humans live within 50 miles of an ocean (ie- plenty of empty space)...that 12 billion people could all tread water in Lake Superior at the same time....that world food production far exceeds needs and is predicted to increase by 25% over the next decade (starvation now is only seen in politically unstable regions, for logistic reasons)...and that there is no natural resource that is in any danger of depletion over the next several centuries (name one if you can)...there is exactly ZERO proof that Man is responsible for any change in climate. (I'll concede that destruction of habitat is a problem in many areas).


Population growth is an easy way to grow an economy-- you don't need to build a better mousetrap ...you just gotta build another mousetrap to make a bigger profit.


OTOH-- availability of food, water, air and shelter are no longer the limiting factors in carry capacity for H.sapiens.... availability of jobs is. ...Will there be too many people for the number of jobs or too few jobs for the number of people?
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Old 12-22-2018, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's heading to zero because the economy is going nowhere but down from here. Who's going to have children when the majority of new jobs are not even paying a living wage?
People living on the public dole.
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