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Why do you think specialized labor (e.g. auto mechanics or beet farmers) would be skilled enough to labor, market, manage, hire, forecast, procure, finance, invest, sell, ship, track their products in this sophisticated, high-tech, highly-specialized, world economy we are now living in?
World markets are fine. The question is conglomerate power that dominate markets and production chains.
In fact most of the international trade you’re talking about is handled internally by one corporation across borders, not between different entities.
That has nothing to do with trade. In fact if you limit commerce to actually following the rules of trade, then tou’d have small production centers rather than dominating private beuracracies.
Then decisions on sales on production gives the laborers democratic control of these decisions rather than by shareholders who are propped up by artificial laws and corporate trade agreements.
And yes, the labor pool can elect a manager for capital and production, but the point is the managers answer to the workers democratically.
2. No, that is how traditional farms operate, the laborer controls the capital that they make and sell. That has been a fact for a long time. It is only recently changing.
If the laborer isn't also the owner, they control nothing but whether or not they will provide their labor. It has always been that way.
Oh, funny. Someone who actually suggests a 90% capital gains tax is suddenly an expert on real life business.
Friend, I don’t like planned economies by large corporate conglomerates who control consumer markets and production chains. That is not freedom.
My point is that the modern economists who argue for these global system don’t share business leaders on how capital is managed. The split happened in the 19th century when businesses realized that this concept of supply/demand would lead to bankruptcy.
If the lord presents an opprotunity to bring down my enemies I will take it, if not I will go home. The malcontentedness is due to living in a world ran by pure evil narrsastic sociopaths and phycopaths who justify there extreme greed.
What do you mean by this? Do you have access to social/psychological support services?
If the laborer isn't also the owner, they control nothing but whether or not they will provide their labor. It has always been that way.
And what exactly?
If the labor only works for a wage with no control over the capital they produce, or how their labor is invested and pricing, profit goals, etc. then that is wage slavery.
Winners do win and I will continue to endeavor to win and that does not involve taking a McJob at my station in life, if I fail then that’s the end of the road. This really is not complicated.
If the lord presents an opprotunity to bring down my enemies I will take it, if not I will go home. The malcontentedness is due to living in a world ran by pure evil narrsastic sociopaths and phycopaths who justify there extreme greed. I believe we have nearly circled back to a modern day antideluvisl period.
It's not only that, but they believed they earned their wealth and demand respect.
Investors who make riches off of no labor, and instead off of rising value, pretend they are better than others and have a right to lecture others about what they are doing wrong with their lives.
And obviously the government wants to keep this dynamic, so a plethora of philosophers and economists pop up to legitimize their wealth and power and say it is somehow 'good'.
That is why they are so arrogant, but when given a job that doesn't involve stealing other people's labor, like actual government positions, they collapse. But obviously propaganda has convinced people that since the rich are such 'winners', they can win for them in politics. Of course they can.
Bush, Obama, and Trump all elected business leaders to head the economy, and they did nothing to help society or the masses.
World markets are fine. The question is conglomerate power that dominate markets and production chains.
In fact most of the international trade you’re talking about is handled internally by one corporation across borders, not between different entities.
That has nothing to do with trade. In fact if you limit commerce to actually following the rules of trade, then tou’d have small production centers rather than dominating private beuracracies.
Then decisions on sales on production gives the laborers democratic control of these decisions rather than by shareholders who are propped up by artificial laws and corporate trade agreements.
And yes, the labor pool can elect a manager for capital and production, but the point is the managers answer to the workers democratically.
1. If we had a business economy like you prescribe, I guarantee the international companies would no longer be located in the U.S.
2. The laborer has made a choice to only work for a wage. In this country, the laborer has individual rights and worker protections and is free to become educated and save/invest wages/pursue funding to set a path where he/she has control over the capital produced. It is not slavery when the laborer receives mandated minimum wages, has worker protection laws, and has the freedom to leave at any time.
3. A product is not just a result of the laborer. It is the culmination of all types of R&D, a myriad of business mgrs/specialists, as well as the effective use/investment of capital by people who are risking $ they could invest in other areas. These capitalists have often invested heavily in gaining expertise and have delayed financial gratification in other areas. There is reward for this.
4. The value of a product/pricing is regulated by supply and demand. Subjective individual evaluation by consumers (rational choice theory) creates value and promotes beneficial innovation/product choices, which is contrary to the failed labor theory of value you Marxists extol.
What are you talking about, shareholders and consumer markets are different from managers. The question is what are managers managing?
If it is a small business, ideally little planning is required.
If it’s a big operation then worker controllers of the capital can democratically elect a manager for whatever purposes they desire, and vote on production decisions.
All businesses require planning. Businesses that don't plan, large or small, will fail. Sure, electing the most popular, or biggest and meanest, fellow worker as the manager is the key to success - not. Most people have bad managerial skills. My managerial skills are mediocre, but I am far better at the technical portion of the job than my managers. I'm happy with that. They do what they are good at, I do what I am good at, and get paid a good salary with great benefits.
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2. Oil, are you kidding; the oil market is controlled by cartels, if you own a gas station you are licensing from a larger petroleum company that either has a monopoly on the market, or has a deal with opec or some other national producer. Price manipulations in the oil market have nothing to do with your imaginary system.
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The market isn't really controlled by cartels, OPEC just tries, with some success, to keep prices from dropping too much.
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Unless they have a need for my skill sets where this location does not. They generally don’t grant asylum unless they have a need.
If your current location doesn't have jobs that use your skill set, your choices are to move to a location that does have relevant job, take a job that's available, regardless of whether you have relevant experience, sit and mope all day complaining about how unfair it is that your dream job doesn't exist at your location. The first two choices seem more fulfilling to me.
If it is a small business, ideally little planning is required.
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As a successful small business owner for 20 years, I can say your statement is 100% untrue. Or are you now going to tell me I’ve done too much planning?
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