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Old 02-23-2019, 09:27 PM
 
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The fact that you even had to bring the motor in to be taken apart into pieces drives me away from Subaruís. Yes cars break but that story with Subaru is much more common than it should be. Iíd be better off with that 96 Tacoma that gets about the same gas mileage and has a bed for bikes, skis, fishing gear and fish. Not knocking your lifestyle choice. Subaruís are amazing in the snow and have the best AWD system on the market. Iím just very scared of that. However the Tacoma isnít the most frugal choice
You are young. Grab the truck for $6K and move on with your life. Later on you will chuckle when you recall this particular non-fork in the road
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:30 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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For AK, guy... I agree about the Subie (I have a Forester... but probably my least favorite 'drive' at the moment < 10k / yr (that's nice!!!, should last me another 20 yrs!) or until I find / make a Golf Country (there are still ~ 10 of those left in Canada and (2) in USA). I make GTD's for my summer drivers... ~ $1000 for a 50 mpg FUN car that handles AWESOME "Drivers Wanted"

Save your $$ for the upcoming Tacoma Diesel... https://pickuptrucks2018.com/toyota-tacoma-diesel/
More info here.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...trucks.564034/

When you get the Diesel bug...!!!!
*https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/...ationFlag=true
1) look for 25 yr old + less import restrictions... (probably seek ONLY BC (no / little rust) Fraser Valley!
2) Will be easier into AK! (than CA) Importing a Toyota Diesel From Canada

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Or... make your own!
~ $5k for donor gasser and a used Diesel engine / tranny
or...
https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/...812652916.html
or.. (after you are wealthy...) heart throb boom, boom...
https://www.cummins.com/engines/repower
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Old 02-24-2019, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Hey guys! I am kind of struggling with trying to choose a reliable vehicle. Itís got to be a Toyota or Honda. So I can get a 1996 Tacoma low miles (139,000) and 4X4 5 speed xtra cab with a 4 cylinder (very very reliable and known to last years) itís been inspected by a shop and they said itís perfect and gave me the green light. No frame rust anywhere. Itís $6000 but if you look around youíll see rusted out Tacomaís or 4runners from that era that are 270,000 miles asking the same amount. They hold their value very well cause they last. Iíve seen 400,000 to a million miles on these. The plan with the Tacoma is to run it into the ground so I can save up for a duplex or triplex or even just a single home of my own and once property is bought buy a corolla or Camry to daily drive and have the truck for truck stuff and blizzards. I need a 4x4 or AWD where I live and do multiple trips to the family cabin through brutal conditions. The other option is to buy a newer, safer, 4runner. Itís a 2007 with 121,000 miles. Itís 13,300. Iíd like that instead but moneyís tight and I feel like it would be more to maintain than the bare bones Tacoma. All though it can seat 4 and presents a better image to outsiders.

So a bit about my money.

Make about $800 a week gross
Really early in my career
Have about $17,500 cash saved up
Kind of hard to build that kind of cash up with my income.
I have a Roth IRA that I contribute to monthly for my retirement I started at 24 (26 now)

So spend 13,300 and have $4200 left
Or spend $6000 and have a stil reliable as heck but older truck and have $11,500 left over.

Let me know what your thoughts are. Iím looking for answers of people who have been through a similar fork in the road.

Here is what I can say about Toyota. Of the five Toyotas that my family has owned or does own there has not been a day where we regret buying any of the five vehicles. My Rav 4 which has been donated to charity was like an old man with a strong heart. Some of the parts stopped working but it just won't die.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:15 AM
 
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It's not frugal to keep two vehicles, if you don't NEED to. It's expensive to keep a 2nd vehicle: registration, inspections, maintenance, repairs, tires, insurance.

It's frugal to have one decent vehicle that suits all or most of your needs. (You can always rent a vehicle to go on a long trip, for example.)

That 1996 Tacoma may end up costing you a fortune in repairs.

If it were me, I'd opt for a 10 year old vehicle, or newer, with as low mileage as possible, in decent condition, that looks like it was well maintained. With decent tires.

If it were me, I'd probably start w/checking out Toyota RAVs from about 2010 w/traction control. I don't know how much repairs on Toyotas cost. You need to consider that.

Since I'm female, my first consideration would be a used Honda CR-V, preferably with AWD. But warning: CR-Vs are thought of as kinda girly cars, I think. But Hondas cost a bit less than Toyotas, and are reasonable cost for repairs. And easy to get worked on at most repair shops.

A used Subaru would be best for AWD, but Subarus cost more, I think. And are pricier to have repaired than Toyotas or Hondas (I used to have a Forester). OTOH, Subarus have AWD in I think all its models, so more choices. Subaru has a crossover in between its sedans and its SUVs. Not as good on gas mileage as a Honda. Subarus, like Toyotas, have utilitarian interiors. Not great sound systems or nice upholstery. Like Toyotas. They're both owned by Fuji, I think.

Keep in mind the size of the vehicle. An Outback, one of the Subarus that have a nicer interior, is long and needs a decent sized garage. Most other Subarus are more compact sized, so easier to park, fit into garages, etc.

As far as cost goes, think beyond the sticker price. You will have registration and other costs added to that, plus sales tax. I'd shoot for spending about $10,000, plus taxes and fees.

For me, the most economical would be a CR-V. Honda excels at interiors, good sound systems. But it'd be hard to find a used one with AWD. THe type of AWD that Toyota and Honda have don't compare with the Subaru AWD. I like AWD but don't need it. You seem like you need it.

You need a solid, reliable, cost-effective vehicle to serve you for as many years as possible, w/o costing you much in maintenance and repairs, so you can build up your savings again. If that's your main goal, it'd be a Honda or Toyota, over the Subaru. If you can do w/o AWD. If you have to have AWD, that will limit your choices, but you can still find one probably. May cost you a bit more.

You can probably get more bang for your buck with a Honda. And there are dealerships and repair shops everywhere that work on Honda. Parts are easy to get. There's a reason that so many people have Hondas.

Finally, when dealing for a used car, don't forget to check out cost of insurance. Ins rates for small Hondas may be more than for a larger Toyota, simply because they are less safe. They're safe, but costs for accidents are higher, so higher ins. rates.

When negotiating, read up on how to do that for a used car. Unlike new cars, each used car is unique. Read "Honest Guide to Buying a Car." There's a chapter on used cars. Lots of information. How to Buy a New or Used Car and Get the Best Deal Every Time - RealCarTips.com near the bottom of the page. It's free to read it on the site.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: midvalley Oregon and Eastside seattle area
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Full size PU at U-haul, $25/day + milage +gas. Mostly reliable.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:31 AM
 
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So spend 13,300 and have $4200 left
Or spend $6000 and have a stil reliable as heck but older truck and have $11,500 left over.

Let me know what your thoughts are. Iím looking for answers of people who have been through a similar fork in the road.

I would take the lower priced truck and forgo full coverage. I would even go lower than a $6000 truck and save up more for the future.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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With either vehicle, you run the risk of needing some expensive repairs - even though your trusted mechanic says the vehicle is fine today. I'm thinking of things such as the water pump, radiator, the alternator, power steering pump, starter motor, A/C compressor, and actually the transmission itself, depending on if prior owners performed proper maintenance. Your mechanic probably told you the condition of the brakes. What did he say about the Transmission fluid?

One thing you can do for about $25 (maybe its $35) is engine oil analysis. You take a small sample of the existing engine oil and send it off to a lab; they send you back a report regarding what they find. Here are some things they report:



For more than you ever wanted to know about used engine oil analysis, spend some time on https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/.



I live in snow country (we've had about 250 inches of snow so far this winter) and I understand completely the need for AWD or 4WD. Don't forget you should have snow tires as well - AWD/4WD help you "go" but do not help you "stop." You need winter/snow tires to help stop -- not only when there is snow/ice on the pavement but when the pavement is clear while the temperature is below about 30 degrees (snow tires are made from a different compound that grips better than all-season tires when it gets cold).

While I see some AWD sedans and station wagons, most everyone drives AWD/4WD crossovers, SUVs, and pickups. Ground clearance counts.

One thing to consider: hypothetically you could put a lightweight, small snow plow on it (full size plows require a 3/4 ton truck), and pick up some $$$ in the winter plowing some local driveways the morning after a big storm.

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Old 02-24-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Hey guys! I am kind of struggling with trying to choose a reliable vehicle. Itís got to be a Toyota or Honda. So I can get a 1996 Tacoma low miles (139,000) and 4X4 5 speed xtra cab with a 4 cylinder (very very reliable and known to last years) itís been inspected by a shop and they said itís perfect and gave me the green light. No frame rust anywhere. Itís $6000 but if you look around youíll see rusted out Tacomaís or 4runners from that era that are 270,000 miles asking the same amount. They hold their value very well cause they last. Iíve seen 400,000 to a million miles on these. The plan with the Tacoma is to run it into the ground so I can save up for a duplex or triplex or even just a single home of my own and once property is bought buy a corolla or Camry to daily drive and have the truck for truck stuff and blizzards. I need a 4x4 or AWD where I live and do multiple trips to the family cabin through brutal conditions. The other option is to buy a newer, safer, 4runner. Itís a 2007 with 121,000 miles. Itís 13,300. Iíd like that instead but moneyís tight and I feel like it would be more to maintain than the bare bones Tacoma. All though it can seat 4 and presents a better image to outsiders.

So a bit about my money.

Make about $800 a week gross
Really early in my career
Have about $17,500 cash saved up
Kind of hard to build that kind of cash up with my income.
I have a Roth IRA that I contribute to monthly for my retirement I started at 24 (26 now)

So spend 13,300 and have $4200 left
Or spend $6000 and have a stil reliable as heck but older truck and have $11,500 left over.

Let me know what your thoughts are. Iím looking for answers of people who have been through a similar fork in the road.
Well, you are on the right track. I personally couldn't recommend a purchase on a 23 year old vehicle, even a Toyota. Keep looking around, and don't limit yourself to only Toyota or Honda. There a are plenty of good vehicles in the 2006 to 2010 range which if you shop carefully, would be a better buy than the '96 Toyota. Good luck!
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Old 02-24-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: SF, CA
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Skisnow, you might try posting your question to the Automotive forum here --
you'll at least get more suggestions, maybe even some facts!

But congrats on contributing to an IRA at a young age... you're starting out on the right track.
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Old 02-24-2019, 04:02 PM
 
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You are young. Grab the truck for $6K and move on with your life. Later on you will chuckle when you recall this particular non-fork in the road
Bingo.

We have 2000 Tacoma and love it.

Bought it used years ago. Still running like a champ. Can't tell you how many loads we've hauled in it.

$6K for one that a mechanic has gone over and no rust?

Don't know why you are even hesitating.
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