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Old 05-31-2019, 05:42 AM
 
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shenzhen ?
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Old 05-31-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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...Also, one other note. They mine majority of the world's rare earth materials for electronic components. Which is also a bummer.[/i]
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metals are mined from tribal africa:
https://www.cnet.com/news/reporters-...st-of-gadgets/
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Old 05-31-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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metals are mined from tribal africa:
https://www.cnet.com/news/reporters-...st-of-gadgets/

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Old 05-31-2019, 08:15 AM
 
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Mostly because china puts fewer demands on the manufacturing companies. Workers have virtually no rights and china does not care about the environment or the public.
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Old 05-31-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Pittsford, NY
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They can make phones here, no problem. All kinds of electronics, more complex than phones were made in USA till recently, and a rare few outside DoD still are with of course DoD still making everything in US. Apple can make phones here no question, it will cost more. No pollution spilled into rivers and oceans too, no battery chemicals spilled into municipal water sources, no pennies per hour pay, etc. Yes that costs more but that is in the worlds best interests and best for jobs in US so we can earn money to buy phones. Just cut executive pay so we can pay all the manufacturing engineers again.
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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Why do you pretend that was the only issue?
I don't have to pretend.
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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In lieu of the recent trade war, why do we have such a heavy dependence on just one country? Why can't we consider India, Nigeria, Bangladesh or other developing countries for manufacturing? These are all highly populated with cheap labor and are mostly pretty stable.


Obviously, I know that many things are already made in Bangladesh and India; but it's not nearly as much as China.


Sorry if this has been asked already. I couldn't find much on this specific question here upon scanning the forum.
Cheap Labor
Cheap relatively skilled labor (labor productivity)
Very weak international regulations on environment / labor regulations
Access to Capital
Large install base of equipment, resources, and international transit
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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Cheap Labor
Cheap relatively skilled labor (labor productivity)
Very weak international regulations on environment / labor regulations
Access to Capital
Large install base of equipment, resources, and international transit
won't matter in the next 20 years

automation will out-china China

robotics is what put american car makers on even grounds as german and japanese car makers, it evening out the playing field in terms of quality of product. That doesn't say anything about the quality of design however. But the screws and bolts are as tight on american cars as they are on other cars, they are just in the wrong places >.>

once automation/factories take over, it will go to wherever has the cheapest electricity costs to run the robots. and if it is cheaper in the US, or barely more expensive, the shipping costs will negate the "labor" cost of electricity
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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won't matter in the next 20 years

automation will out-china China

robotics is what put american car makers on even grounds as german and japanese car makers, it evening out the playing field in terms of quality of product. That doesn't say anything about the quality of design however. But the screws and bolts are as tight on american cars as they are on other cars, they are just in the wrong places >.>

once automation/factories take over, it will go to wherever has the cheapest electricity costs to run the robots. and if it is cheaper in the US, or barely more expensive, the shipping costs will negate the "labor" cost of electricity
long-term I agree with you but in the near-term having an endless supply of belly buttons to throw at something is an economic advantage however fleeting it may be.

In terms of technical skills India and China are surpassing the US at an increasing rate. Give it 10-20 years and the educated populations and skill set will reverse to that region of the world. Our youth is soft, inefficient, and lacks any competitive bone in their body. Those countries have a work ethic unmatched in this country.
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Old 05-31-2019, 07:48 PM
 
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Does this graph show metals mined from Chinese territory, or production of metals from Chinese companies?
Chinese supposedly own a majority of the mines in Australia
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