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Old 06-17-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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I remember thinking to myself there should be a scale each would-be customer should stand on prior to being allowed to enter a restaurant.

Nowadays, I shake my head at morbidly obese mothers with overweight 4 year olds at the grocery store, loading the cart up with "food" -- if you could call it that.
We went to a car race/show this weekend in Petersburg. I just could not believe the percentage of women ( Iím a gal too, but damn) that were obese. I mean...it was crazy. I just donít understand what the hell has happened to people.
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Old 06-17-2019, 04:00 PM
 
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I remember thinking to myself there should be a scale each would-be customer should stand on prior to being allowed to enter a restaurant.

Nowadays, I shake my head at morbidly obese mothers with overweight 4 year olds at the grocery store, loading the cart up with "food" -- if you could call it that.
Ouch! A harsh, but accurate assessment.

Not to evoke the "death panel" discussions that went viral during the early AHCA debates, but we need more inducement for the elderly to enter hospice programs, and greatly increase the availability of physician-assisted suicide. There are many, many older people in nursing homes who have zero joy (or even awareness) in living, my own aunt (in a memory unit) asked me to bring her a gun recently (obviously, I won't). But I would be willing to hook her up with Dr. Kervorkian if it were legal. At 92, her "life" was pretty much over three or so years ago, and she's well aware of it. Her days currently consist of discomfort, eating, sleeping, breathing, and toileting. Not something I want for myself, especially at eight grand a month.

There is a problem with being able to give your assets away and then expecting Medicaid to pay for unlimited nursing home care. But there is also a problem with not saving for your old age, entering your "Golden Years" broke and then expecting Medicaid to pay for unlimited nursing home care. Perhaps those on Medicaid need to automatically go into a Hospice-type program (by that, I mean extremely limited medical care, no dialysis, insulin, or other life-prolonging medications). Harsh, but also accurate, lest the system go broke completely. Maybe Medicaid needs to enlist the services of a country like the Philippines to care for the elderly - and at the same time (different subject), maybe we can offshore many of our violent, felony-convicted prisoners to Mexico or Nigeria to serve out their life terms.
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Old 06-17-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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Those on here who know my story know that i was medically retired on SSDI at the age of 40. Im now going to be 56 shortly. I have Medicare for that reason. Among other things, i have degenerative disc disease ( so a very bad back), bad hips with avascular necrosis ( dead/dying bone), and bad knees basically chalked up to arthritis that grows more severe as i age. I wear a back brace, and two knee braces and use a cane to get around. Ive had c4-5 fused, and just today i had another MRI to determine if c3-4 is now pressing on my spinal chord enough to also fuse. Ive had 21 surgeries to date. Ill find out in a week if the neurosurgeon will decide to the additional fusion.

That said, one treatment for my conditions and the tremendous pain i endure EVERY day, is of course, medication....morphine and codeine to be exact, which is getting harder and harder to obtain.

Another treatment in addition is injections, though now with the avascular necrosis, they are leery of giving me. There are other injections, such as nerve blocks and radio frequency ablation. All of which USED to be done in 15 minutes IN the doctors office. Now, due to "new insurance regulations " this must be done in an ambulatory surgical OR, and now takes half a day to accomplish!

My point here IS: it was far cheaper to do those things in the doctors office, requiring fewer people, and more patients done in a hour instead. There are other procedures that now require a lengthy stay, sometimes overnight, all costing MORE to insurance.

Some "contained costs" have now spiraled astronomically upward, for relatively simple procedures.

I DONT agree that Medicare age should be increased. Not EVERYONE is going to live 18-19 yrs beyond current Medicare age of 65. That would make me,what 78? I doubt i will live that long with all the other medical issues I have.

IF i had not had Medicare at age 40, i probably wouldn't have lived this long.

Health care costs are ridiculously expensive, and going up every day.

Health care agencies are getting away with ripping off the poorer people who cant afford health insurance, as one post upthread mentioned. They will accept $200 from insurance, but rip-off the uninsured for $800 for the same services, as noted in the example. And thise who have Medicaid get shunned and receive lesser service than insured or self pay people, as medicaid doesn't pay very much at all. I know ive had good employers insurance, no insurance, Medicaid and now Medicare. And I've seen some of the bills, and payments credited when they accidentally sent me a copy.

Many non-medicare people are also mistaken that Medicare is free...its not, i pay $149/m for tye privilege, plus i pay $222/m for a supplemental plan. So it costs me just over $370/m to be covered. Sure, i use waaaaay more than that in my health care needs, so for me, its a bargain.

Health care costs need to be tamed, provers need to be nonprofits along with health insurance companies made nonprofit, and coverage for all would make it easily doable, other developed countries do it, so can we. I have a friend in Germany who underwent a triple bypass surgery today. Coverage for he and his wife is just under $40/m, and it covers them in ALL of the European countries. Hes had several hospitalizations, even been air flown to critical care units, and other surgeries prior to this one today. All for less than $40/m. Oh, you can buy private insurance, but it doesn't guarantee any better service.
If all of Europe can do it, so can America.

Raising the Medicare age may mean people will die sooner because they get denied or they simply cannot afford to get the care they need. And that might reduce the AVERAGE age of life expectancy, not increase it.

Single payer, coverage for all, and reducing health care costs CAN be done, if only WE (the royal "WE" as in all population of the United states, INCLUDING the politicians) would let it.

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Old 06-17-2019, 05:15 PM
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Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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We went to a car race/show this weekend in Petersburg. I just could not believe the percentage of women ( Iím a gal too, but damn) that were obese. I mean...it was crazy. I just donít understand what the hell has happened to people.
Cheese.
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Old 06-17-2019, 06:05 PM
 
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disability.
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Old 06-17-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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We went to a car race/show this weekend in Petersburg. I just could not believe the percentage of women ( Iím a gal too, but damn) that were obese. I mean...it was crazy. I just donít understand what the hell has happened to people.
I would be interesting to know how many were on Food stamps / EBT.

Govt programs would go a long way by eliminating crap foods.
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:04 PM
 
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I would be interesting to know how many were on Food stamps / EBT.

Govt programs would go a long way by eliminating crap foods.
Not many I don't think. These folks were driving a LOT of money. $$$$!!

Drag racing is NOT a cheap undertaking.
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Southern Most New Jersey
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I get a kick out of people thinking Medicare should be cut back. My guess someone with a Cadillac employer or government health plan. Certainly not one of us fighting in the trenches for decent healthcare at a fair cost.

I am not a socialist, far from it. But it is time for a single payer option with a tax to help pay for it. Just like many other civilized countries.

And keep in mind Medicare only pays 80%. But it does help control costs and form some kind of a baseline.
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Cheese.
Actually, that's a good part of it.

Cheese was a minor part of the US diet until a market had to be found for the megatons of it bought up by USDA price support programs. Presto, cheese in/on everything.
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:48 PM
 
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Cut it
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