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Old Today, 02:43 AM
 
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It was enacted STATIC and up to Congress to increase it so NO, it wasn't an "always" bill.

And it was in response to the Great Depression.

From his speech...this did not happen.

Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library and Museum - Our Documents
"If we now inflate prices as fast and as far as we increase wages, the whole project will be set at naught. We cannot hope for the full effect of this plan unless, in these first critical months, and, even at the expense of full initial profits, we defer price increases as long as possible."
lol, talk about taking stuff out of context:

This is the whole paragraph you quoted:

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I am fully aware that wage increases will eventually raise costs, but I ask that managements give first consideration to the improvement of operating figures by greatly increased sales to be expected from the rising purchasing power of the public. That is good economics and good business. The aim of this whole effort is to restore our rich domestic market by raising its vast consuming capacity. If we now inflate prices as fast and as far as we increase wages, the whole project will be set at naught. We cannot hope for the full effect of this plan unless, in these first critical months, and, even at the expense of full initial profits, we defer price increases as long as possible. If we can thus start a strong, sound, upward spiral of business activity, our industries will have little doubt of black-ink operations in the last quarter of this year. The pent-up demand of this people is very great and if we can release it on so broad a front, we need not fear a lagging recovery. There is greater danger of too much feverish speed.
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Old Today, 02:47 AM
 
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When did FDR ever say that minimum wage should support a family?
He said ALL WORKERS, not simply workers who did not have a family!

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It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By "business" I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry; by workers I mean all workers, the white collar class as well as the men in overalls; and by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level-I mean the wages of decent living.
Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library and Museum - Our Documents
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Old Today, 06:30 AM
 
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He said ALL WORKERS, not simply workers who did not have a family!

FDR speech:

Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library and Museum - Our Documents
I am very familiar with his speech. Nowhere in it does he state or imply that one minimum wage income should be enough to support a family. Particularly in an era when most working class households contained two wage-earners.
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Old Today, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Boston
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168 hours in a week, if you're only working 40 and you're strapped for cash, get a second full/part time job. Plenty of jobs available. Don't be lazy. Get to work.
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Old Today, 07:17 AM
 
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Tell that to FDR, the father of the minimum wage who said that it should be a living wage that will support a family.

A dishwasher typically makes $11 an hour, a taxi driver makes $12.50 an hour, a restaurant cook makes $12.80 an hour, a hair dresser makes $11.90 an hour.

These are typical jobs in America. You can complain all you want that the wages are too high and that these workers need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but it doesn't change reality. Not everyone can be some big shot Wall Street guy or a doctor.
You don't have to become some "Wall Street guy" or a Doctor but 15 an hour to flip burgers and jack up a food order is ridiculous. Take a Pharmacy Tech as an example, they make on average $14-15 an hour and this person is responsible to make sure you get the correct medications in the correct dosages. If they or the Pharmacist make a mistake they could inadvertently kill someone. They require a higher level of attention, skill and education so if we are going to approve a minimum wage for someone to flip a burger to $15 then I'd expect these people to get a significant raise in salary also but you and I both know that wont happen. Next we'll see people flipping burgers and jacking up orders making the same as someone responsible for someone's life like my above example or maybe that burger flipper will hand you your next dose of meds. Good luck with that.

My point being if you are doing jobs like washing dishes and driving a taxi then maybe you should consider another career path if you are trying to support a family and not ask me and the rest of the country to allow you to do a low skill job and get paid the same as someone that requires higher skills.
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Old Today, 07:44 AM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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If Democrats were serious about raising low end wages they would help enforce laws that restrict Illegal Immigration of the millions of Illiterate, homeless, 3rd world who cross our Southern Border.

Demand will cause wages to increase like it has in many areas and jobs.
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Old Today, 08:03 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Tell that to FDR, the father of the minimum wage who said that it should be a living wage . ..........

Living wage means enough to provide food and shelter and maybe a new pair of shoes once a year. It does not mean enough money for a 3 bedroom 2 bath house, a new car, and all the latest electronics.


Even in the high cost areas, you can get shelter and food on a minimum wage. Lots of people do it. They complain that they don't get the 3 bedroom 2 bath house, the 72 inch TV, and a brand new car, but they are living, fed, and out of the rain.


Nowhere in America can you drive around and see starving people with all their bones showing and their clothing in taters ... unless you find a nest of meth addicts and they seem to have enough cash to keep themselves supplied with drugs.
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Old Today, 09:29 AM
 
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If Democrats were serious about raising low end wages they would help enforce laws that restrict Illegal Immigration of the millions of Illiterate, homeless, 3rd world who cross our Southern Border.

Demand will cause wages to increase like it has in many areas and jobs.
Big reason for the people crossing the borders is repression in El Salvador and Honduras by governments overseen by the US. They have some of the highest murder rates in the world.

Another reason is that the immigrants who successfully immigrated to the US in the 90's after the NAFTA crash have been bringing their families over. Much of the illegal immigration from Mexico in the 00's are families repatriating before their green cards have been approved.

Since e-Verify is hardly enforced and Trump wants to convert H1bs to longer-term green cards, it doesn't hardly matter about border walls. Both political parties have their reasons for wanting open borders.

Most states have higher minimum wages than the federal law and are going to go much higher. Given that the US has become urbanized, the federal law probably doesn't get people hired unless they're sex offenders, other felons, or people who fail drug tests.

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Old Today, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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H.R. 582, “Raise the wage act” is a good bill

You mean the "Raise the cost of living act"?
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Old Today, 09:51 AM
 
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If Democrats were serious about raising low end wages they would help enforce laws that restrict Illegal Immigration of the millions of Illiterate, homeless, 3rd world who cross our Southern Border.

Demand will cause wages to increase like it has in many areas and jobs.
Oh because so many of those unemployed/underemployed would jump at the opportunity to work those jobs in which by and large those illegal immigrants occupy. Or in reality they wouldn’t and in the reality of the situation you should be able to discuss things without bringing in politics
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