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Old 08-14-2019, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I was thinking the same thing until I looked at the offerings at local restaurants in my area.

Yup....$15 dinner salads.
Hence the problem with the minimum wage vs living wage argument. That salad is the same as it was yesterday....it brings the same utility, but now it's arbitrarily worth more.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:08 AM
 
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I was thinking the same thing until I looked at the offerings at local restaurants in my area.

Yup....$15 dinner salads.
My statement stands. I donít eat out much anyway...but no freaking way am I paying $15 for a SALAD. Simply not happening.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:15 AM
 
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Here in lower-cost-of-living Las Vegas, I looked online at casual larger chain restaurants. Here's a few screen shots of their salad offerings.

https://i.postimg.cc/g0ndbSLL/screenshot-542.png

https://i.postimg.cc/BbGGDJY2/screenshot-543.png

https://i.postimg.cc/pXRHLXnH/screenshot-544.png

https://i.postimg.cc/bvDXBZ4Q/screenshot-545.png

In some ways, it seems to me the salad menus are constructed by;
  • Decide how much revenue they want to generate
  • Create a salad using components that kinda sorta justifies the price.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:24 AM
 
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More up-scale but not fine dining restaurants charge more for their salads:

https://i.postimg.cc/W1yCg2tt/screenshot-546.png

https://i.postimg.cc/05C4ZGrT/screenshot-548.png

https://i.postimg.cc/MHcjcbLn/screenshot-549.png

https://i.postimg.cc/xCv4wM5b/screenshot-547.png
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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I just ate dinner at a very nice restaurant this weekend. Absolutely fine dining, one of the best in that area. Tab was $75 for me and son before tip, and that included one drink. 2 sides were included with entree’s (we had steaks) and some killer rolls. I did not order a salad, but the salads were $6.
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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People over there are mostly in tech, venture capital funding etc. etc. all filthy rich making $600,000 upwards as a couple ($300k each), they can afford to pay $50 for a salad if it comes down to it. These people are buying $2-3 million homes like it's nothing and then complaining about paying workers $16/hr? It's an expensive area.. the minimum wage as well as cost of products should reflect it.

I know someone who works at Google, with his stock compensation, base and bonus etc. he makes $400,000 just by himself, his wife makes around $220K as well, so $650k household income. And these are the people going out to eat and complaining about $15 salad.
What?

You're confused. Tech workers might make high salaries, but they are not the small business owners struggling to pay this high min wage.

These mom & pop small biz owners are rolling around in money. That's why they're SMALL business owners. A 30% increase in payroll cost can't be absorbed overnight.
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Old 08-14-2019, 12:35 PM
 
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What?

You're confused. Tech workers might make high salaries, but they are not the small business owners struggling to pay this high min wage.

These mom & pop small biz owners are rolling around in money. That's why they're SMALL business owners. A 30% increase in payroll cost can't be absorbed overnight.
I think you meant "are NOT rolling around in money."
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Old 08-14-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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I just ate dinner at a very nice restaurant this weekend. Absolutely fine dining, one of the best in that area. Tab was $75 for me and son before tip, and that included one drink. 2 sides were included with entree’s (we had steaks) and some killer rolls. I did not order a salad, but the salads were $6.
That sounds like a "side salad" rather than an "entree salad."
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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The Bay Area has to be one of the most dysfunctional housing markets in the world. Minimum wage is not going to fix it.

Don't get me wrong - I am all for raising the federal minimum wage, but to the ~$12 range, not $15. But I would like to index it to inflation so we never have this argument again.

But no minimum wage in the world is going to fix the effed up Bay Area housing.

As for entree prices including salads - Here in Oregon anything better than fast food is going to run at least $12 per person, before drink. A $15 salad would come with a protein, and is a slightly higher than average cost for a decent salad with chicken or something. I'd say $12-14 is more likely. Eating out costs about $15-20 per person at average places. It's been like that for at least 5 years.
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Old 08-14-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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That sounds like a "side salad" rather than an "entree salad."
They don’t specify...there was a salad section and they were all $6. I have ordered a salad for dinner, always with chicken in it ( I don’t do a salad with any other dish - that’s too much food) a few times here and there...I’ve never paid more than 8.95. And frankly I don’t like paying THAT. Restaurant meals have become outrageously priced. Increasing the wages of the servers will only add to the closings.
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