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Old 09-20-2019, 03:27 PM
Status: "Whatever it takes - ‘cause I love the adrenaline in my veins" (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: San Francisco
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So far Amazon has received over 200,000 applications/resumes in response to their announced 30,000 job openings (from entry level to software development engineers).
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:59 PM
 
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So far Amazon has received over 200,000 applications/resumes in response to their announced 30,000 job openings (from entry level to software development engineers).
All my life I have been hearing immigrants are needed to do jobs Americans won't do. This one event clearly proves that Americans are willing to work.
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:14 PM
 
Location: SWFL
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All my life I have been hearing immigrants are needed to do jobs Americans won't do. This one event clearly proves that Americans are willing to work.
Yep, me too.
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:23 PM
Status: "Make Orwell fiction again" (set 10 days ago)
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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if you're willing to work you'll develop skills. So many lazy people in the workforce these days, it's easy to get ahead.
skills? it doesn't take many skills to work in an amazon warehouse, my son did it for 2 or 3 years, this was in Fernley NV before they were as automated as they are now but he said it was a miserable job. You are on your feet for 8 hours and you walk 10-13 miles during your shift if you're a picker. They give you points for being late or missing work with or without an excuse, after you acquire enough points they automatically fire you. I think they may have changed this but when he was there he had to stand in line for 20-30 minutes on his own time at the end of the shift while they searched everyone who was going home. He said they target long term direct hires for firing because they are paying them more, they prefer to get rid of them and replace them with temp workers
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/26/a...ght-warehouse/
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Amazon gets a bad rap, but the fact is, they are offering jobs and benefits to people. Many of these jobs may soon be gone. Take it while you can.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:12 PM
Status: "Whatever it takes - ‘cause I love the adrenaline in my veins" (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: San Francisco
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skills? it doesn't take many skills to work in an amazon warehouse, my son did it for 2 or 3 years, this was in Fernley NV before they were as automated as they are now but he said it was a miserable job. You are on your feet for 8 hours and you walk 10-13 miles during your shift if you're a picker. They give you points for being late or missing work with or without an excuse, after you acquire enough points they automatically fire you. I think they may have changed this but when he was there he had to stand in line for 20-30 minutes on his own time at the end of the shift while they searched everyone who was going home. He said they target long term direct hires for firing because they are paying them more, they prefer to get rid of them and replace them with temp workers
The minimum rate for permanent employees (as well as temporary/seasonal) is the same - $15/hr. Amazon has also been part of the push for a higher federal minimum wage.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:17 PM
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The minimum rate for permanent employees (as well as temporary/seasonal) is the same - $15/hr. Amazon has also been part of the push for a higher federal minimum wage.
Right but temps don't get benefits mainly because they don't let them work enough hours to receive them and they also don't guarantee them hours, it's common for temp workers to show up for a shift and get sent home. And since they went to $15 an hour hourly employees no longer receive stock options or bonuses. From what I've read Amazon is actually saving money by paying $15 an hour and not giving out those perks. When my son worked there - over a decade ago he was a direct hire and started at around $12.50 and was getting around $14 when he quit and that was in Nevada which has a $8.25 minimum wage
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:35 PM
Status: "Whatever it takes - ‘cause I love the adrenaline in my veins" (set 27 days ago)
 
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Right but temps don't get benefits and new hires @ $15 an hour don't get the stock options or hourly bonuses. From what I've read they are actually saving money by paying $15 an hour and not giving out those perks. When my son worked there - over a decade ago he was a direct hire and started at around $12.50 and was getting around $14 when he quit and that was in Nevada which has a $8.25 minimum wage
The critical point, however, is - you cannot state they fire permanent workers in order to replace them with temporary workers (who are seasonal). Most temps, by the way, are hired through agencies such as ISS (and are not employees of Amazon) - meaning their bottom line goes way beyond the $15/hr.
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Old 09-20-2019, 07:09 PM
Status: "Make Orwell fiction again" (set 10 days ago)
 
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The critical point, however, is - you cannot state they fire permanent workers in order to replace them with temporary workers (who are seasonal). Most temps, by the way, are hired through agencies such as ISS (and are not employees of Amazon) - meaning their bottom line goes way beyond the $15/hr.
I can state it because they do it. It's obvious that even with temp agency fees amazon benefits from hiring them - year round. And there is nothing "seasonal" about temp workers many of them work nearly full time, they are just more convenient for Amazon because when they show up for a shift you can send them home and it costs Amazon nothing, they can also tell the agency not to send a particular worker back, that beats the heck out of fighting unemployment claims, and their pay never goes up, there are no scheduled increases for temps, you are hired at $15 an hour and if you work 5 years you still get paid $5 an hour.

Amazon has always done this kind of stuff, I'm not sure why you doubt it. Amazon now has machines that tracks worker productivity and if it falls below their standard that same machine generates a termination notice.

Don't kid yourself, Amazon doesn't give a crap about their employees and they never have.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/13/inside...ouse-employee/
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:12 PM
Status: "Whatever it takes - ‘cause I love the adrenaline in my veins" (set 27 days ago)
 
Location: San Francisco
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I can state it because they do it. It's obvious that even with temp agency fees amazon benefits from hiring them - year round. And there is nothing "seasonal" about temp workers many of them work nearly full time, they are just more convenient for Amazon because when they show up for a shift you can send them home and it costs Amazon nothing, they can also tell the agency not to send a particular worker back, that beats the heck out of fighting unemployment claims, and their pay never goes up, there are no scheduled increases for temps, you are hired at $15 an hour and if you work 5 years you still get paid $5 an hour.

Amazon has always done this kind of stuff, I'm not sure why you doubt it. Amazon now has machines that tracks worker productivity and if it falls below their standard that same machine generates a termination notice.

Don't kid yourself, Amazon doesn't give a crap about their employees and they never have.
I didn’t say I doubted (or believed) anything you are stating (about your son being a ‘fire’ target) nor am I speaking to whether Amazon ‘cares’ about their employees. Of course, there will be disgruntled employees and various issues along the way; they have gone from eleven employees to over 600,000 - they provide full benefits for part time, a minimal wage of $15 an hour and upskilling opportunities. That you want to whine about Amazon (or various staffing agency partners i.e. ISS, etc.) without understanding the differences (in cost to Amazon) or any direct first-hand experience to substantiate it in the midst of Amazon receiving over 200,000 applicants for 30,000 positions - is suspect. Maybe they didn’t get your son’s memo.

You can’t speak publicly to Amazon’s hiring practices or their intent i.e. firing permanent workers to replace them with temp workers ‘to save money’ as if it is routinely done. You have to be able to prove it beyond your opinion (intent as well). Meanwhile, 30000 new permanent jobs are available
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