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Old 10-24-2008, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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We have turned into a consumer economy..not a producer economy.
I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I'm pretty tired of being labeled a "consumer".

I am many more things than that, many better things. To reduce me to a gaping mouth and grasping mitts is to reduce mankind to sub-human status.

I don't care whether it is good for the economy or not. I am NOT just a "consumer". I am a man, dammit!
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I'm pretty tired of being labeled a "consumer".

I am many more things than that, many better things. To reduce me to a gaping mouth and grasping mitts is to reduce mankind to sub-human status.

I don't care whether it is good for the economy or not. I am NOT just a "consumer". I am a man, dammit!
Me too. We're not taxpayers or citizens or Americans anymore..we are "consumers".
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:10 AM
 
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I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I'm pretty tired of being labeled a "consumer".

I am many more things than that, many better things. To reduce me to a gaping mouth and grasping mitts is to reduce mankind to sub-human status.

I don't care whether it is good for the economy or not. I am NOT just a "consumer". I am a man, dammit!
Me too. The whole consumer this,consumer that makes me sick. We are human.We are all trying to provide the best life we can for ourselves and our children.This to me does not include what I can buy for myself or my kids.Life,shockingly enough,does not need to mean that those with the best things win.
Sure,my kids ask for things and in the past I would to try to give them everything I could. I came to the conclusion six months ago that our cultural obsession with "bling" and the "give me" attitude that I see everyday in children(and adults too) in this society must stop. We have grown far away from "What can I do to contribute?" to "What's in it for me?" and it's sickening.
My wake-up moment? The day my 12 year old begged for a cell-phone because everyone he knows(including kids age 10) have one. No he didn't get one
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:44 AM
 
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A little desperate and misleading, aren't we? You think we just woke up from a coma? Congress did not sponsor the bailout. Henry Paulson, a Bush's employee, authored it. By the way, McCain supported it too.

McCain backs bailout while defending deregulation :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: John McCain (http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/mccain/1177603,CST-NWS-camp22.article - broken link)
the bailout bills were introduced by a democratic congress and signed by the republican president. unfortunately for all americans the bailout bill was endorsed by both obama and mccain. obama had a lot to do with the origination of the bailout bill (read obama and the derivatives online by pam martens, a wall street reporter).
just for the record the sponsors of the bailout bills were:
chris dodd
patrick kennedy

charles rangel
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:48 AM
 
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A little desperate and misleading, aren't we? You think we just woke up from a coma? Congress did not sponsor the bailout. Henry Paulson, a Bush's employee, authored it. By the way, McCain supported it too.

McCain backs bailout while defending deregulation :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: John McCain (http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/mccain/1177603,CST-NWS-camp22.article - broken link)
the bailout bills were introduced by a democratic congress and signed by the republican president. unfortunately for all americans the bailout bill was endorsed by both obama and mccain. obama had a lot to do with the origination of the bailout bill (read obama and the derivatives online by pam martens, a wall street reporter).
just for the record the sponsors of the bailout bills were:
chris dodd-democrat
patrick kennedy-democrat
charles rangel-democrat

patrick kennedy sponsored the last bailout bill (bill #1424 emergency economic stabilization bill) this was the 2nd bailout bill that passed after the first bailout bill failed.
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Old 10-24-2008, 12:11 PM
 
Location: In My Own Little World. . .
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Me too. We're not taxpayers or citizens or Americans anymore..we are "consumers".
I think one of our most embarrassing moments as a nation was President Bush telling us to "go shopping" after the most horrendous terrorist attack on American soil happened. I still cringe when I think about it.
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Old 10-24-2008, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I've come to the conclusion that this country is run by the banksters. Our votes do not count when it comes to change in policies. Both sides are bought out by big lobbyists. The government will not "save" their own taxpayers/citizens at the expense of the banksters.
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Old 10-24-2008, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Hope, AR
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This is not the politics board.

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the bailout bills were introduced by a democratic congress and signed by the republican president. unfortunately for all americans the bailout bill was endorsed by both obama and mccain. obama had a lot to do with the origination of the bailout bill (read obama and the derivatives online by pam martens, a wall street reporter).
just for the record the sponsors of the bailout bills were:
chris dodd-democrat
patrick kennedy-democrat
charles rangel-democrat

patrick kennedy sponsored the last bailout bill (bill #1424 emergency economic stabilization bill) this was the 2nd bailout bill that passed after the first bailout bill failed.
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Old 10-24-2008, 12:48 PM
 
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I've come to the conclusion that this country is run by the banksters. Our votes do not count when it comes to change in policies. Both sides are bought out by big lobbyists. The government will not "save" their own taxpayers/citizens at the expense of the banksters.
Sure enough. Absolutely agree.

And once one "gets" all that, it is very liberating and freeing.

No worry about D v. R. They both suck.

and as the proverb goes --

"Between two evils, choose neither."

but the more important, second part goes --

"Between two goods, choose both."

Lot of good things to be doing. Even more than two.

Build "lifeboats" as it were. Figure out how to take care of yourself, your family, and even neighbors, if need be.

So like the folks at the NOLA 'dome, once you figure out you are on your own, you can figure out to take care of yourself and those around you.
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Old 10-26-2008, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Some place very cold
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Me too. We're not taxpayers or citizens or Americans anymore..we are "consumers".
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!

Me too! Me too! Me too!

Me too!



*loud barking, tail wagging, panting*
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