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Old 12-02-2008, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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I also heard, again this is just a rumor, that prison guards will get a greater pay cut. They will get paid for four days a week but work five.

I guess we will see in the next couple weeks.
That smacks of communism.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:15 AM
 
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70Ford, Concert? Please educate me? Is this part of the state?
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:17 AM
 
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This thread should really be transfered to the California Board.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Fort Myers, FL
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besides the overspending of budgets, you have to keep in mind, money they collect in taxes has to be spent or they have to return it. so they try to spend it all to the T. obviously they never thought that so many people would be foreclosing and not paying property taxes this year. this is a prime example of our federal government at a local level. this is the core of the republicans. less spending, less government. as you can see jobs are not created the obama way with more government. when the money runs out, EVERYONE has to suffer.
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:24 AM
 
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Cutting back on the much-abused entitlement programs would help. Go to the ER sometime and wait for hours behind all the kids with sniffles, whose parents bring them there because it's free and a doctor visit or cold medicine would cost money. Spend one hour in an LA classroom and see how many children can't speak English and how many resources it takes to teach them, then wonder why you're paying so much for your child to learn so little. Look at all the uninsured, unregistered drivers on the road and realize how much they contribute to the smog, wear and tear and UMI without helping fund improvements. Consider all the services performed for cash by invisible people who don't pay a penny in taxes.

CA is a great place to live, but there are too many takers and not enough givers. Then there are all the elected officials using taxpayer dollars to repair their personal cars, etc., etc. Intervention will be useless without change.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:05 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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If only CA would have restricted the fleeing of real estate equity 30 yrs ago, and required all but the national average home value be left in CA.... They (CA) would have plenty of money today, and the rest of us in surrounding regions would not be be paying zillions in property taxes due to artificially inflated values.
Or
they could have exported Prop 13 I now spend 10x on property taxes, what I do on food.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:06 PM
 
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Last I looked, California only got 80% back in Federal Spending from what they sent in.

One of the lowest returns of any of the "several states."

In truth -- the rest of US are all leaching off California.

If California could cut loose US, they would be doing fine.

This site tracks the various returns over the last 20+ years for all the states

The Tax Foundation - Federal Taxes Paid vs. Federal Spending Received by State, 1981-2005
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Lakes & Mountains of East TN
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This thread should really be transfered to the California Board.
I disagree; all eyes are on Arnie as he asks for his bailout...to see if the rest of us will be living in bailout states too because if they give california a bailout, the rest will be waiting with their hands out too.

Pretty soon the debt will be owed by our GREAT grandkids.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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This thread should really be transfered to the California Board.
Because States that have no money don't have anything to do with business? What? This is a glimpse of the horror that is yet to come.

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70Ford, Concert? Please educate me? Is this part of the state?
No. Concert was a company that had no foresight and was mismanaged to death. They had a serious problem with payroll... which caused people to leave en masse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Last I looked, California only got 80% back in Federal Spending from what they sent in.

One of the lowest returns of any of the "several states."

In truth -- the rest of US are all leaching off California.

If California could cut loose US, they would be doing fine.

This site tracks the various returns over the last 20+ years for all the states

The Tax Foundation - Federal Taxes Paid vs. Federal Spending Received by State, 1981-2005
I dunno. I think California depends on the U.S. to make California what California is. I think my hand is great. If I cut off my hand, it's not so great now.
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