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Wow.... lazy Americans, fake resumed non citizens....some rude words are being used here.. I wonder if people coining these words say same things when they face the other people from otherside in office... most probably not...most probably faking friendly smiles
I dont think we can or should generalize like this. I worked with Americans who are really god and non americans who really seems to have the experience they say they have. I guess it depends on which consutlancy firm they come from. I know several firms make up their contractor's resumes to market them.
People complaining that they worked with fake resumed non locals,did they complain to their HR/Supervisor ?
Satz..I know I did; not complain but I did mention that the person was not skilled in the area they claimed to be. It didn't matter; the person stayed on the team and the rest of us had to pick up the slack to get the project done.
Hey HappyTexan, that is a problem in most places... Project managers/leads don't want to change people even though they realize they don't have enough exp. or skills. They dont want to take trouble of finding a replacement, train him and explain to higher management on why choose the person in first place and justify the cost to retrain.....
Corporates should ban the consutling services companies (if applicable) which involve i this kind of practice from servicing them again. But they wont.... who will want to loose the kick-backs they get from those servicing companies ?
I think I understand why we get pissed off... and probably righly so... but I dont see a solution.... may be latest trend of Govt asking bailed out corporates not to recruit H1Bs could be a step towards it, but see, these Corporates HAD TO BE TOLD to recruit citizens. But corporates worry about margins, not patriotic feelings... If Govt keeps pressing them, when they see that they were not making similar profits, they might think about moving their whole business to a place that opens doors for cheaper alternatives.
But I guess, non citizens who are already in US would get pissed off too, because US govt collected visa fee from them, invited them to US to work and now says you dont have jobs...
Lets also remember, the H1Bs we talk about, very quickly become Green card holders and then citizens....The H1Bs you refer to here, might be already in their last satge of getting GCs. So, will Govt start stopping recruiting GC holders ? Or stop giving GCs ? They should, if they come into mode of protectionism, but that's when US stops being a worls super power... stops being a Land of opportunities. A good portion of American wealth is because of Immigrants... world does not t see it as good practice to use Immigrants when US needs them and dispose them off when they dont..
For instance there are several non citizens that studied in their countries in one of the best business schools and IT schools and they are working here in US, contributing to US wealth..and ofcourse taking away some of the jobs... So, Citizens dont like them to come because of their jobs, but do Corporates think the same ? I dont think so...
Lets also remember, the H1Bs we talk about, very quickly become Green card holders and then citizens....The H1Bs you refer to here, might be already in their last satge of getting GCs. So, will Govt start stopping recruiting GC holders ? Or stop giving GCs ? They should, if they come into mode of protectionism, but that's when US stops being a worls super power... stops being a Land of opportunities. A good portion of American wealth is because of Immigrants... world does not t see it as good practice to use Immigrants when US needs them and dispose them off when they dont..
For instance there are several non citizens that studied in their countries in one of the best business schools and IT schools and they are working here in US, contributing to US wealth..and ofcourse taking away some of the jobs... So, Citizens dont like them to come because of their jobs, but do Corporates think the same ? I dont think so...
The thing is the ones who get their GCs end up competing with the new H1Bs. It stinks for them also. I have friends who have their GCs now and can't get jobs. I have friends who are on H1s also being laid off just to be replaced by new H1s. These friends have families/kids etc so they are scared too. They come here for a better life, standard of living and more opportunities and it's being taken away also.
We're just heading towards a decline here in the US. It stinks all around for everyone.
The H1Bs here do not quickly become citizens. I have heard from some personally that say they must stay at that position where they are allowed to live in the u.s. and it takes them 15 years+ or so to become a citizen. Kind of compares to indentured servitude. I hate this program so much, it is just not well thought out. but the corporations LOVE it, so it will stay.
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