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What I mean is that you are a leech on society, and you are promoting other's becoming leeches on society. I dont know where you get your information from, but people like you are the reason many hospitals close AND why health insurance is so expensive. What makes you think you have the right to repeatedly act stupid, end up in the hospital, and force others to pay for your care? You are no better than a career welfare recipient. It's bad enough that people who really need care through no fault of their own cant afford it, but YOU tax the system out of mere selfishness.
I have been in the hospital 4 times. 2 of them were suicide attempts (when I was younger) where someone else called the ambulance on me. The other 2 were exactly the same situation as the young lady who started the thread. Not even one of these 4 hospital stays did I accept care. Every single time I was forced into it. I have never had a company that I worked for provide health insurance. On what I make, I cannot even afford my own apartment, let alone health insurance. As far as I am concerned, health care should be free like Canada. I still maintain that I have given the op the most cost effective advice on this thread. You also have to remember this young lady was forced against her will into this. Do you really think she should have to pay $3,000 for someone else's error?
Where I get my information and facts from is this....
In Las Vegas, you receive a bill in the mail after you are released from the hospital. If you do not have insurance, you automatically receive a 33% discount of the entire bill. This is a state law. The reason is simple. They overcharge the insurance company's to cover the uninsured. I was even told this by a nurse in the hospital.
I have been in the hospital 4 times. 2 of them were suicide attempts (when I was younger) where someone else called the ambulance on me. The other 2 were exactly the same situation as the young lady who started the thread. Not even one of these 4 hospital stays did I accept care. Every single time I was forced into it. I have never had a company that I worked for provide health insurance. On what I make, I cannot even afford my own apartment, let alone health insurance. As far as I am concerned, health care should be free like Canada. I still maintain that I have given the op the most cost effective advice on this thread. You also have to remember this young lady was forced against her will into this. Do you really think she should have to pay $3,000 for someone else's error?
I agree that the cop should probably not have forced her to go to the hospital, and I think she should do whatever she can to get the debt reduced as much as possible or even wiped away, but your post is full of some serious misconceptions.
Healthcare in Canada is not free, nor is it anywhere in the world. Nothing in this world, save for air, is free (even clean air isn't free in a lot of places). What you're really saying is that someone else should subsidize your healthcare because of your behavior, your choice to work in a low-paying job, your lot in life... If you're smart enough to figure out how to get online and post in threads like this, and if you have enough time to do so, not to mention getting drunk and landing in the hospital in the first place, you have enough time and ability to get off your a$$ and work more. If you have enough money to get drunk, you can certainly buy a low-cost health insurance plan.
Please stop expecting others to subsidize your repeated failures in life. The OP made a mistake, and it's likely she'll learn and never do it again. You, on the other hand, are a disgrace.
"As far as I am concerned, health care should be free like Canada. I still maintain that I have given the op the most cost effective advice on this thread. You also have to remember this young lady was forced against her will into this. Do you really think she should have to pay $3,000 for someone else's error?"
This attitude just chaps my arse.....no fault...wasn't thinking....someone else needs to clean up their mess....can't help but to think of Atlas Shrugged
Health Care is NOT free...
I agree that the cop should probably not have forced her to go to the hospital, and I think she should do whatever she can to get the debt reduced as much as possible or even wiped away, but your post is full of some serious misconceptions.
Healthcare in Canada is not free, nor is it anywhere in the world. Nothing in this world, save for air, is free (even clean air isn't free in a lot of places). What you're really saying is that someone else should subsidize your healthcare because of your behavior, your choice to work in a low-paying job, your lot in life... If you're smart enough to figure out how to get online and post in threads like this, and if you have enough time to do so, not to mention getting drunk and landing in the hospital in the first place, you have enough time and ability to get off your a$$ and work more. If you have enough money to get drunk, you can certainly buy a low-cost health insurance plan.
Please stop expecting others to subsidize your repeated failures in life. The OP made a mistake, and it's likely she'll learn and never do it again. You, on the other hand, are a disgrace.
Ok, a couple points here. Health care in Canada is free. Not only did I watch the movie "Sicko" by Micheal Moore, I also meet Canadians regularly on the Las Vegas Strip and they coincide with this. I also work a job where I literally have to do nothing BUT sit on the internet all day, that is why it seems I am always on this forum. Just so you know, I already work 40 hours a week as it is. I also never remember saying that I was a smart guy, I have already admitted many times that I never went to college. The true disgrace is not me, it was the hospital who saved my life back in 2000 (suicide, roommate found me expectantly). If they had just let me died like I wanted too, none of this would have happened.
Ok, a couple points here. Health care in Canada is free. Not only did I watch the movie "Sicko" by Micheal Moore, I also meet Canadians regularly on the Las Vegas Strip and they coincide with this. I also work a job where I literally have to do nothing BUT sit on the internet all day, that is why it seems I am always on this forum. Just so you know, I already work 40 hours a week as it is. I also never remember saying that I was a smart guy, I have already admitted many times that I never went to college. The true disgrace is not me, it was the hospital who saved my life back in 2000. If they had just let me died like I wanted too, none of this would have happened.
No, it is not "free" in Canada. It's just paid for differently from how it is here. The more productive elements of society in Canada are taxed quite heavily in order to provide healthcare to everyone. It's nothing more than a redistribution of wealth. Someone, somewhere, is always footing the bill. Basic economics and accounting would tell you that.
If you're on the forum, then you're not working. You do not work 40 hours a week. You may be creating the impression of working, but you're not working. Whether your employer cares that you're doing that is immaterial here. By the way, there are plenty of people who actually do work 50, 60, 80 hours a week, so don't try to garner sympathy by saying you "already work 40 hours a week."
Going to college is not a prerequisite for success. Plenty of people have made it big without a college degree. Some, like Wendys' Dave Thomas, have made it big without a high school diploma. Education is a nice thing to have, but it's not essential for achieving a remotely acceptable standard of living. A work ethic and a good attitude are. You seem to be lacking both. I hope for your sake you can turn things around for yourself.
This is completely untrue, apartments and car creditors can care less about hospital bills. If you do not believe me, call them and ask.
They do care about low credit scores. So, IF the bill goes into collections and causes the OP's score to be below 700 (or whatever cutoff the agency has decided) she can have trouble finding an apartment. I've known at least 3 people that have had serious problems finding a place to live because of low credit scores. One friend just moved to a very rough area because no one else would take her. So, don't give the OP a false sense of security that she can walk away from the debt with no negative consequences.
No, it is not "free" in Canada. It's just paid for differently from how it is here. The more productive elements of society in Canada are taxed quite heavily in order to provide healthcare to everyone. It's nothing more than a redistribution of wealth. Someone, somewhere, is always footing the bill. Basic economics and accounting would tell you that.
If you're on the forum, then you're not working. You do not work 40 hours a week. You may be creating the impression of working, but you're not working. Whether your employer cares that you're doing that is immaterial here. By the way, there are plenty of people who actually do work 50, 60, 80 hours a week, so don't try to garner sympathy by saying you "already work 40 hours a week."
Going to college is not a prerequisite for success. Plenty of people have made it big without a college degree. Some, like Wendys' Dave Thomas, have made it big without a high school diploma. Education is a nice thing to have, but it's not essential for achieving a remotely acceptable standard of living. A work ethic and a good attitude are. You seem to be lacking both. I hope for your sake you can turn things around for yourself.
Stone,
I honestly do work a full time job. I only said it was easy. I work as a security guard indoors in a high end office building. My job consists of monitoring a couple cameras. At my desk I have a computer with internet, television with 75 channel cable, and dvd player. Regardless of this, I still work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. I swear I am not lying about this. I just happened to be stationed at a really good post. Most security guard jobs are not this cushy.
They do care about low credit scores. So, IF the bill goes into collections and causes the OP's score to be below 700 (or whatever cutoff the agency has decided) she can have trouble finding an apartment. I've known at least 3 people that have had serious problems finding a place to live because of low credit scores. One friend just moved to a very rough area because no one else would take her. So, don't give the OP a false sense of security that she can walk away from the debt with no negative consequences.
Back when I made more money, I did have apartments. All they cared about was evictions and/or judgments. Your friends are not being refused apartments because of hospital bills, I do not buy it for a second. I am telling you, call a couple apartments and tell them you have decent credit other than hospital bills. Same goes for a vehicle. Every time I have mentioned all my negative credit is hospital bills, they say it is ok. Try it yourself before you respond to this post, because you will see I am right.
Edit: I have six negative marks on my credit report, all are hospital bills. I have a 655 credit score. I can buy a new car or get into any apartment I want. I just need a higher income per the creditors. I know this because I have tried to finance a car recently, and not to long ago tried to get an apartment. So what you are saying is completely untrue. This girl is going to get a good job when she finishes school, so the income problem will not apply to her.
If you are sitting a chair watching TV all day, what prevents you from opening up a textbook and reading it for an online class? There are even cheaper options of some colleges posting their classes online for free, including book lists so you can at least learn independently.
Have you tried talking to the patient advocate at the facility? I've worked in health facilities for a majority of my career, and generally they will work with you and put you in charity care that will take care of the bill. We have written off 6 figure bills...we also have some people who pay $20 a month, pretty much until they die based on ther recommendation. If you are at least nice to people they try and work with you, if you aren't you are escorted out and sued.
Health care is never free, it's like saying my lunch was free because my wife paid for it. Different accounts, but still out of your pocket.
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