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Old 11-24-2009, 07:04 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:12 AM
 
Location: 3rd Rock fts
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Thank you.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:37 AM
 
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Well now that's obvious!

(That's why I have everything in my ROTH 401K and my ROTH IRA!)
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Trickle-down Obamanomics is already hitting my town in the way of a 10% electrical rate hike next month.

Can't wait for 'Cap and Trade' ........
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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Well now that's obvious!

(That's why I have everything in my ROTH 401K and my ROTH IRA!)
This post is ironic. While you claim the taxation issue to be obvious, you smugly proclaim your hedge is the ROTH. Here's an obvious observation, even my car mechanic knows a ROTH is the swiss account of the 21th century working stiff. As such, do you REALLY believe the government is not going to summarily pull that rug under ya in a decades time? Borrowed time my friend, ROTH will be gone by the end of the '10s, and certainly by the time you reach retirement age. How's that for obvious...
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:04 AM
 
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The Federal Gov does not need your tax money. When will any of you learn? All they need to do is print treasury bonds and tax by inflation. That is what they are doing now. The only real debt is to Japan and China.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:30 AM
 
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Printing money just encourages politicians to borrow more. Just look at Japan.

Letting the Bush and Obama tax cuts expire at the end of 2010 will reduce the funding shortfall by nearly a half trillion dollars.

Eliminate the tax deduction for contributions to retirement accounts would save another 120 billion dollars. Employer's matching contributions would be taxed. That would leave the Roth-type accounts as the only retirement accounts. Existing deductible accounts would be unaffected or converted to Roths at the owner's option.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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tax increases WILL start riots. But I don't see how the gov can get around it. Are those the "good times ahead" everyone talks about?
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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The Federal Gov does not need your tax money. When will any of you learn? All they need to do is print treasury bonds and tax by inflation. That is what they are doing now. The only real debt is to Japan and China.
Yea, I'm sure that will work forever.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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tax increases WILL start riots. But I don't see how the gov can get around it. Are those the "good times ahead" everyone talks about?
Not in the USA that I have come to know... The gov will put some 'Spin-doctor' on the media and the average, compliant, and not too informed American will go back into their induced trance.
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