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Old 08-02-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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I was with you until that last sentence.
Why? My last statement was an acknowledgement that this plan could result in more young criminals.....you know....the ones who wouldn't attend high school, vocational training, public service or any other non-destructive activity. More young criminals would be an unfortunate but unavoidable trade-off for dramatically better schools. On balance, I think the outcome would be significantly more positive than negative.
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Old 08-02-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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Why? My last statement was an acknowledgement that this plan could result in more young criminals.....you know....the ones who wouldn't attend high school, vocational training, public service or any other non-destructive activity. More young criminals would be an unfortunate but unavoidable trade-off for dramatically better schools. On balance, I think the outcome would be significantly more positive than negative.

How so?
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Old 08-02-2010, 01:51 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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In the long run, he'll probably be better off with the degree. He'll have more opportunity for advancement.

I don't think our district would have handled his situation that way, though the vo-tech teachers may have encouraged college. Actually, that's sort of what happened to my brother-in-law, all those decades ago. He went to a vo-tech HS planning to learn electronics; he did so well he was encouraged to go to college and get an associate's degree; did so well in that he was encouraged to get a BS in electrical engineering. He graduated from high school in 1964, in Omaha, Nebraska.
That's what we hoped for him... get some classes and hands-on under his belt before he went on to college. Alas, they would not allow it!

He graduated last year with his BFA, and he is gainfully employed married homeowner.
He turned out better-than-all-right!
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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That's what we hoped for him... get some classes and hands-on under his belt before he went on to college. Alas, they would not allow it!

He graduated last year with his BFA, and he is gainfully employed married homeowner.
He turned out better-than-all-right!
Good for him! You have a right to be proud. Your school district needs an attitude adjustment. I agree that taking some graphics courses in HS would give him a taste of the field and let him know if he liked it.
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Old 08-02-2010, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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I agree it should be optional.

-And even then, I'd gut 80% of the current cirriculum. At least half of a *privileged* high school education should be foreign based. It's scary.

I graduated highschool in 1996, I dont think I learned anything about the rest of the world. Besides abstract, memorized history, like a european war or the holocaust. Funny how China is running laps around the US since then, but I don't remember anything about Chinese provinces, chinese history, etc. Besides dumbed down, the cirriculum is too politically correct.

I don't know which is worst. Dumbing down. Or political correctness (basically omitting key information).

Maybe in a privileged highschool (with more money per school hopefully), a year or two could be spent abroad. That would be a great educational gift to give motivated students who want to learn.

The problem for the last 20-30 years, motivated students don't get any kind of educational "gift". And students at the bottom are just wasting their time, when they could be in tech vocational, or some other kind of learning.
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