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Unread 06-24-2011, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Holmdel, NJ
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You mean to say your teachers didn't take attendance since you say it wasn't done in your school?
i meant the whole card tracking stuff. you went through it all in detail but i wasnt sure if you were suggesting it was something we all need. i understand that a lot of expectations have been put on schools and teachers and then they turn into legal responsibilities so you dont have much choice. but i dont agree with those expectations and responsibilities being in place.
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Unread 06-25-2011, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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When are students going to start standing up and *Asking* why, are you regulating my bodily functions? Who gave you that kind of control?

Why aren't harder questions asked of these -schools- (prisons? day care centers?). I wonder how a lot of control in school is even legal. How can you legally regulate someone to a certain area, at certain times of the day?

Treat kids like morons - and wonder why kids hate school.

It's kind of funny and sad that everyone is assumed guilty in school. It's like all of the burden is on you to prove that you're ok. The detention center and surveilance aspects of school are scary.
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Unread 06-25-2011, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Fairfield, CT
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Don't complain too much... the school I just left was way worse.

I got a detention for not showing work on 5 math problems. Then the same teacher tryed to give me a Saturday School ( have to pay $50 and go to school saturday with school uniform ). I talked my way out of it though. I left that school a few months ago to finish senior year in a public school.

I honestly didn't go to bathroom at my last school because I just don't have time to and because most of my teachers wouldn't even let you. I hated that school and trained my body not to have to "go", so I never felt the slightest urge. When I finish high school off senior year, it will be "Heaven" compared to the last school I went to. I can tell many more stories of things that are worse than what you explained and what I just said.

Someone always has it worse, so don't simply complain because of that.
That sounds pretty strict. My school had a dress code, you had to be to class on time, coudn't use the bathroom during class, etc. But we had time between periods to use the bathroom if necessary, si it wasn't an issue.

I used to like to get in trouble periodically. I liked to violate the dress code by wearing sneakers and that landed me in detention a few times. Senior year I cut out a few times to go boozing and that got me into a long tour of duty doing custodial work in detention after school. Fun times.

But not being able to use the bathroom during class was never an issue. People who complain about that sound pretty whiny. It never really bothered me to get detention anyway, as long as it wasn't for something that was totally lame. The main thing was to be able to brag about it to my friends, and not have to keep silent about it and hope nobody I knew saw me there for fear they'd ask why I was there, and I'd have to give a lame answer.

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Unread 06-26-2011, 01:02 PM
 
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but they arent assembly line workers. when i went to college we could get up and pee or leave as we pleased. nobody died.
When I went to college, if you left class early, you didn't return. It was disrespectful to the professor and the other students to disrupt the class by leaving before dismissal. There was no such thing as tardy to class for the same reason. If you were late, you sat outside and took notes through the closed door.

We were also taught to respect our readers by using standard writing conventions. That has also changed. Fortunately, bad writing isn't usually fatal either.
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Unread 06-26-2011, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Okay, I've only read the OP, but wow.............

In high school, the ONLY class no one was EVER allowed to get up and go - study hall. Yup, study hall. While I agree in class being taught, that it may be disruptive, how can it be in study hall??? Of course, the teacher would get up and leave whenever she felt like it, but we weren't allowed. One my friends had been sick and even brought a doctor's note in - teacher still said no. Friend had to go, so got up and just walked out, and she got detention.

College - I had no issues with any teacher. Anyone could just get up and go whenever.
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Unread 06-26-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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I have a good friend who when they were younger was sometimes denied the right to get up and go pee...he did just what his mother told him to do next time....yep, he peed right there in the corner of his classroom.
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Unread 06-26-2011, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Fairfield, CT
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I have a good friend who when they were younger was sometimes denied the right to get up and go pee...he did just what his mother told him to do next time....yep, he peed right there in the corner of his classroom.
Was he in first grade at the time?
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Unread 06-27-2011, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Holmdel, NJ
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When I went to college, if you left class early, you didn't return. It was disrespectful to the professor and the other students to disrupt the class by leaving before dismissal. There was no such thing as tardy to class for the same reason. If you were late, you sat outside and took notes through the closed door.

We were also taught to respect our readers by using standard writing conventions. That has also changed. Fortunately, bad writing isn't usually fatal either.
when i went to college, if you had to take a leak you would quietly stand up, go take a leak, and quietly return. it worked like a charm.
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Unread 06-27-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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Yeah - if you can't leave a class without causing a disruption, then that is what needs to be corrected

As for this rule, doesn't seem that bad as it is per class - but this could vary .... in my HS we had 8 class periods that would rotate their times throughout the day ... a couple wouldn't be every day classes (for example, one day would be art the next music, although they shared the same period)

so 4-6 per class per semester should be reasonable

however, with that I don't think I would be too happy about getting detention if I had to go

I was never one to ask permission to use the bathroom - it just bugged me, if I had to go to the bathroom I would wait until the time was best and then go ... to me it's more of a distraction to make a production about asking, etc

I can see being restrictive during examinations and trying to cut down on frequent users .... I guess as with most things, if you aren't abusing the system it sucks to get caught up in rules that target those who do
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Unread 06-27-2011, 12:45 PM
 
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Was he in first grade at the time?
Definately elementary school........never the less....for young or older students the "rule" in my oppinion is asinine.
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